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jan lili, waso lili noun head first.
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Agree, but what is about: "lili pona", "lili ike"?jan lili, waso lili noun head first
Are these combinations allowed or forbidden in tp? Is "lili" a noun, here?a small Google search reveals that "mute ike" is used for "too much".
- mute pona
- mute ike
- lili pona
- lili ike
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janpona o,janpona120 wrote:Are these combinations allowed or forbidden in tp? Is "lili" a noun, here?- mute pona
- mute ike
- lili pona
- lili ike
sure they are allowed. About nouns, let me take a simplier example first, because this topic causes much confusion:
In "jan pona", "pona" can be translated as an adjective, "good", but it can also be read as a noun: "a person of good" in the same way that "toki pona" is both "a good language" and "a language of good". Therefore, a very good person or a person of much good is a "jan pi pona mute". So yes, "lili" in "lili pona" is a noun, but it can be translated as an adjective: "small (enough)".
https://github.com/stefichjo/toki-pona (mi sitelen e lipu ni pi toki pona)
mi jan Tepan. mi pu. mi weka e jan nasa Kipo e jan nasa Lope.
mi jan Tepan. mi pu. mi weka e jan nasa Kipo e jan nasa Lope.
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Somehow the reply to this thread ended up on the Blood section next to this one ( now).
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For me, two words are composing a NA-templet (noun adjective), therefore, in my understanding, it is forbidden -- the first word "can be translated as an adjective". I like an idea" "lili" is a small thing (with an embedded meaning "liliputian" of some sort; no young).So yes, "lili" in "lili pona" is a noun, but it can be translated as an adjective: "small (enough)"
lili jan -- a small thing with a humanlike view (gnomes, pixies, and like these)
suli jan -- a big thing with a humanlike view (giants)
lili pipi -- microbe, bacteria
lili kasi -- bonsai; for comparison: no small or young tree (kasi lili)
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These reverse order compounds are legitimate but liable to misconstrual since they are less common than order mistakes. They are, on the other hand, a rather useful device for hard cases like those given in your examples, where the ordinary forms always feel not quite right. Thanks.
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When I said that "lili" in "lili pona" can be translated as a noun, I didn't mean "liliputian", but rather "littleness", "smallness", "unimportance". "lili jan" would be "human unimportance", probably. Not a gnome.janpona120 wrote:For me, two words are composing a NA-templet (noun adjective), therefore, in my understanding, it is forbidden -- the first word "can be translated as an adjective". I like an idea" "lili" is a small thing (with an embedded meaning "liliputian" of some sort; no young).So yes, "lili" in "lili pona" is a noun, but it can be translated as an adjective: "small (enough)"
lili jan -- a small thing with a humanlike view (gnomes, pixies, and like these)
suli jan -- a big thing with a humanlike view (giants)
lili pipi -- microbe, bacteria
lili kasi -- bonsai; for comparison: no small or young tree (kasi lili)
https://github.com/stefichjo/toki-pona (mi sitelen e lipu ni pi toki pona)
mi jan Tepan. mi pu. mi weka e jan nasa Kipo e jan nasa Lope.
mi jan Tepan. mi pu. mi weka e jan nasa Kipo e jan nasa Lope.
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tp is fit for children's stories."lili jan" would be "human unimportance", probably. Not a gnome.
So, tp should have standard phrases to describe fairy beings
My proposition: lili jan (incomplete beings), suli jan (complicated beings) What is your variant for liliputian and giant beings?
For example, how to name a story "Snow White and the seven dwarfs"? Guess, the seven boys (jan lili) is not correct in this case.
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Snow White and the seven dwarves:
Jan Sonawiti OR jan Wona lete
En
Jan mije nasa lili
The person Snow White and the strangely small men
Jan Sonawiti OR jan Wona lete
En
Jan mije nasa lili
The person Snow White and the strangely small men
I'm new. Go ahead and correct my tp liberally.
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All manner of possibilities have been tried, from 'Nowa' to 'TeloLeteWalo'; take your pick.
Prob 'mije pi lili nasa'
Prob 'mije pi lili nasa'