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Full and Empty

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Re: Full and Empty

Postby janpona120 » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:16 am

What is about a word "ijo" and "insa":

empty -- jo e ijo ala (has no things)
full -- jo e ijo ali (has, all possible, things)

empty -- jo e insa ala (has no content inside)
full -- jo e insa pini (has a completed content inside)

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Re: Full and Empty

Postby janKipo » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:54 pm

But insa is a thing or at least a place, so 'jo e insa ala' means I'm not sure what " has no inside" -- maybe not hollow. 'insa pini' "finished inside" sould like interior decoration, not fullness. and, of course, 'ijo ali' is hyperbole - 'ijo pi mute pona' "enough stuff" is probably safer.

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Re: Full and Empty

Postby janpona120 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:39 am


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Re: Full and Empty

Postby janKipo » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:05 am

Surface of an object is more likely 'selo' than 'supa'.

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Re: Full and Empty

Postby janpona120 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:19 am


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Re: Full and Empty

Postby janKipo » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:53 pm

Interesting suggestions to throw out to the community.
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Re: Full and Empty

Postby jan Pina » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:32 pm

Me is new to Toki Pona so I have a fresh eye on it.

jo e ala - is pretty clear for newcomers like me. Means empty.
poki jo e ijo lon insa - not emty. It is not completely full but one may clarify it
ante li ken ala lon insa ona.

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Re: Full and Empty

Postby janKipo » Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:41 pm

Kama pona tawa toki pona!
These are useful suggestions, but can be refined:
'poki li jo e ijo' is enough "box contains something"
Probably, 'sin' is better than 'ante' "something more" rather than "something different".

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Re: Full and Empty

Postby janpona120 » Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:59 am

jo e ala poka --> almost empty

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Re: Full and Empty

Postby janKipo » Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:19 am

Yes, 'polka ' seems to be used that way.


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