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Long words' stress

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Long words' stress

Postby mije Wi » Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:06 pm

What about stressing long words in the third syllable from right? That wouldn't change the common words' pronunciation but would make way easier long words (like Wikipesija).
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Re: Long words' stress

Postby janKipo » Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:19 pm

We do need to think about that, since now ALL words are stressed on the first syllable, But shifting the stress might make it harder to identify words in some cases. Still, WIkipesija is not a comfortable mouthful.

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Re: Long words' stress

Postby janMato » Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:34 am

Wikipesija is just a bad transliteration. It should have been truncated at the point where it becomes unique. The cities and countries has plenty of examples where the last syllable gets left off. It follows we can drop a few more syllables off to make a name reasonable to work with. This happens in English, e.g. polyurethane -> polly as soon as anyone has to say it over and over all day.

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Re: Long words' stress

Postby janKipo » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:06 pm

I sensible solution, though just when a word becomes unique is a bit hard to specify, Short enough to use; long enough to identify seems to work about right: Wikipi

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Re: Long words' stress

Postby Mako » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:34 pm

Isn't stress on the first syllable of any word the rule in some languages? IMO rampant post-tonic reduction is a fault of English, not necessarily other tongues.

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Re: Long words' stress

Postby janMato » Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:00 pm

Icelandic and other Scandinavian languages put accent on the first syllable and is part of the cause of the Minnesotan/Lake Woebegone accent. French puts accents later (2nd to last? I forget). English is a French Germanic hybrid, so the accent varies based on a word's parentage. If I remember all this correctly.

I just ran wikipedia through my machine and got Wikipesi using the default options.


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