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How do I say ...

Postby aikidave » Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:48 pm

How do I say?

Vacuum - ilo pi kon tawa wawa

Clean - jaki ala

I protect her - mi weka e ijo ike tan ona
or from the discussion at http:/forums.tokipona.orgviewtopic.php?f=5&t=1601
mi awen weka e ona tan ijo ike

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Re: How do I say ...

Postby janMato » Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:57 pm

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Re: How do I say vacuum, part 2

Postby janMato » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:25 am

single sentence strategies
ilo li pona e supa mi li pakala li wile e pona tan jan ni: jan li pona e ilo. (again, it isn't vacuuming anything right now, the cleaning is just a salient feature)

ilo li pona e supa tan wile mi li pona ala e tomo lape. I vacuumed the floor but (and) not the bedroom.

ilo li pona e supa li lon tomo namako. The vacuum is in the closet. (It isn't vacuuming anything right now!)

Compound word strategies. I don't think tp compounds, there isn't a formal mechanism for it and it is almost completely absent in the official corpus (except maybe kama sona, awen sona and the like)-- however, compound attempts are hard to detect
e ilo pona - clean device, cleaner
e ilo pi supa pona. Floor clean device, floor cleaner
e pona supa - floor-clean(er) This the feel of a compound word more than any other.

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Re: How do I say ...

Postby janKipo » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:45 am

Basically, I agree with Mato, though I prefer (for no reason I've never worked out) the order 'pona tomo' for "housecleaning" and the like. I don't tjhink, for practical, i.e. tp, purposes we need to go into the details of how a house-cleaning tool works; the function is what counts.
The how version of a vacuum cleaner is a good word for "fan", which, of course, is what a vacuum cleaner is on the other side.
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