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Re: jan gbnmvfx

Postby gbnmvfx » Mon May 07, 2018 3:23 pm


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Re: jan gbnmvfx

Postby janKipo » Mon May 07, 2018 5:37 pm

Maybe ‘mi sona ala e nimi sina. ni li ike’. That is, it’s too bad you don’t understand my words, not that the words themselves are bad (what you said). But going back a page, I still don’t understand your first round of ‘nimi sina li ike e mi’. Nor the point of msot of the rest of what you said.

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Re: jan gbnmvfx

Postby jan_Lope » Tue May 08, 2018 12:40 am

pona!
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Re: jan gbnmvfx

Postby gbnmvfx » Wed May 09, 2018 4:19 pm

mi sona e ni: sina kepeken e nimi ' , tan seme? :D

Die Hieroglyphen in dem PDF sind ganz andere als ich in einem Bild habe. Die stellen die einzelnen Wörter als Piktogramme dar. Ich finde die sehr gut, werden die verwendet?

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Re: jan gbnmvfx

Postby janKipo » Wed May 09, 2018 8:04 pm

Lope’s apostrophe, as I understand it, attached to ‘li’ indicates that the following word (the “verb”) is either a noun or an adjective, thus getting rid of the ‘ona li moku’ = "he eats” or “He is food” ambiguity. More profoundly it stands for an invisible copula (which tp neither has nor needs) that is inserted in the grammar before words used as nouns or adjectives in the “verb” (head of predicate) position. It’s a useful device for disambiguation (relative to English or German) but hard to justify in general -- even less than the commas before terminal prepositionsal phrases.

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Re: jan gbnmvfx

Postby janTepanNetaPelin » Thu May 10, 2018 5:52 am

https://github.com/stefichjo/toki-pona (mi sitelen e lipu ni pi toki pona)
mi jan Tepan. mi pu. mi weka e jan nasa Kipo e jan nasa Lope.

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Re: jan gbnmvfx

Postby gbnmvfx » Fri May 11, 2018 3:23 pm


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Re: jan gbnmvfx

Postby janKipo » Fri May 11, 2018 4:52 pm

Sorry, I was caught in a tp ambiguity, what the scope of a question is. ‘mi sona e ni: sina kepeken e nimi ‘, tan seme’ makes the whole complex sentence + display appear to be a question. It is an odd one, to be sure, since we don’t ordinary say we know something that we are questioning. But you might have been using ‘sona’ as a variant of ‘pilin’, say, and so a matter of “wonder”. I now realize that you were, in fact, trying to reproduce an English (or German, as far as I can recall -- it’s been 60 years) “indirect question” “I know why you use apostrophe”. This, of course, is not a question and. contains no question, merely a relative pronoun, which is externally identical to an interrogative one (and has been alas, for 5000 years). Translators (to languages which don’t have the same congenital disease) have learned to deal with this. So, what you meant was simply ‘mi sona e tan pi kepeken nimi ‘’ “I understand the reason for using apostrophe.” I confess I am not as thorough at cleaning up this particular mess as I should be, so too many cases of calquey passages have slipped through and I got caught by one of them. Sorry to have not caught it sooner and to have fed you a second dose of something that you already knew and, I hope, thoroughly disapprove.

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Re: jan gbnmvfx

Postby jan_Lope » Mon May 14, 2018 1:38 am

pona!
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Re: jan gbnmvfx

Postby jan_Lope » Mon May 14, 2018 2:04 am

pona!
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