jan Same wrote:Your website is a gold mine!
I've learned toki pona with your lessons, and I use your dictionary all the time !
pali sina li pona mute tawa mi
janTepanNetaPelin wrote:jan Lope o, toki!
Congratulations on your grammar! You have just been quoted from it on Facebook, and so I had the opportunity to take a look at it. I have an urging question: in "Several pi-Phrases for one Compound Noun" you leave out the comma in "kulupu pi kalama musi→,← pi ma Inli li
pona." You seem to do this because "pi phrases are not nested," so leaving out the comma doesn't do any harm. But where do you have this information from? I can't find hints in either jan Pije's pages nor in jan Sonja's book.
But, in jan Sonja's book I can find grouped li-phrases that have commas, as in "jan Isa li tawa lili, li kama anpa, li toki e ni tawa sewi: ..." I would expect the same thing to be possible with grouped pi-phrases. Since I don't see why nesting is not allowed, I would read multiple pi-phrases without commas as nested.
jan_Lope wrote:Where do you get the information that "li"-phrases can be nested? Several "li"-phrases blong to the subject and not to other "li"-phrases. Or with other words: a verb phrase can only belong to the noun phrase and not to an other verb phrase.
Commas before or after an other separator like "li", "pi", "la", "e", ":", "!", "?" or "." are not neccessary.
janTepanNetaPelin wrote:But I can't find any statement or example in the Official Book that prohibits the nesting of pi-phrases. Therefore, the comma for grouping pi-phrases seems necessary.
jan_Lope wrote:There is no example in the Official Book for nested pi-phrases.
The goal of Toki Pona is simplicity. Keep Toki Pona as simple as possible! Nested phrases are not simple.
For a better understanding see the languages of the Pirahã. This language has some similarities to Toki Pona and has no recursion.
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