What is about a word "ijo" and "insa":
empty -- jo e ijo ala (has no things)
full -- jo e ijo ali (has, all possible, things)
empty -- jo e insa ala (has no content inside)
full -- jo e insa pini (has a completed content inside)
Full and Empty
Re: Full and Empty
But insa is a thing or at least a place, so 'jo e insa ala' means I'm not sure what " has no inside" -- maybe not hollow. 'insa pini' "finished inside" sould like interior decoration, not fullness. and, of course, 'ijo ali' is hyperbole - 'ijo pi mute pona' "enough stuff" is probably safer.
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What is a mission of a box (a tube, an oil pipeline)? -- to be filled, no decorated. The decor is a mission of a surface (supa), walls (sinpin), clothes (len)... head (lawa) by a crown. I would like to say: the decoration is "sitelen" (including an arabic written pictures).'insa pini' "finished inside" sould like interior decoration, not fullness
So, the interior decoration --> insa sitelen pini (finished as a picture, where? inside).
And contrary, "insa sitelen ala" --> an interior without decoration (or "decorated on 0%).
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Surface of an object is more likely 'selo' than 'supa'.
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Thank you for a useful prompt.Surface of an object is more likely 'selo' than 'supa'
selo sitelen -- decorated skin
supa sitelen -- decorated floor
sinpin sitelen -- decorated wall
It will be very good to see another variants with "X sitelen". This is also about "full and empty" question, because surfaces can be filled by an ornament. I guess:
ma sitelen -- landscape
mu sitelen -- melody of a nature (song of bird, for example)
nasin sitelen -- bio (as a variant)
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Interesting suggestions to throw out to the community.
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Me is new to Toki Pona so I have a fresh eye on it.
jo e ala - is pretty clear for newcomers like me. Means empty.
poki jo e ijo lon insa - not emty. It is not completely full but one may clarify it
ante li ken ala lon insa ona.
jo e ala - is pretty clear for newcomers like me. Means empty.
poki jo e ijo lon insa - not emty. It is not completely full but one may clarify it
ante li ken ala lon insa ona.
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Kama pona tawa toki pona!
These are useful suggestions, but can be refined:
'poki li jo e ijo' is enough "box contains something"
Probably, 'sin' is better than 'ante' "something more" rather than "something different".
These are useful suggestions, but can be refined:
'poki li jo e ijo' is enough "box contains something"
Probably, 'sin' is better than 'ante' "something more" rather than "something different".
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Re: Full and Empty
jo e ala poka --> almost empty
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Yes, 'polka ' seems to be used that way.