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toki!
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:04 am
by janMakuwe
toki! mi jan Makuwe.
tenpo pini lili la mi esun e pu. tenpo kama lili la ona li kama.
taso mi sona e toki pona. toki pona li pona tawa mi!
mi pakala la o toki tawa mi!
Re: toki!
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:09 pm
by janKipo
jan Makuwe o, kama pona tawa toki pona
sina pakala ala. taso toki pona la nimi pi lipu pi jan Sonja li nimi'pu' ala. mi mute
li kepeken nimi ni lon toki Inli taso.
Re: toki!
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:53 am
by jan_Lope
janMakuwe wrote:toki! mi jan Makuwe.
tenpo pini lili la mi esun e pu. tenpo kama lili la ona li kama.
taso mi sona e toki pona. toki pona li pona tawa mi!
mi pakala la o toki tawa mi!
jan Makuwe o, toki!
ken la lipu mi li ' pona, tawa sina.
https://jan-lope.github.io/Toki_Pona_lessons_English/
ken la ilo mi li ' pona kin, tawa sina.
https://jan-lope.github.io/Toki_Pona-Parser/
pona!
Re: toki!
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:09 am
by janKipo
The optional commas before prepositional phrases are obligatory in Lope's grammar. Overkill, but maybe better than omitting them when they help (maybe not, too, since they break the flow of reading).
Re: toki!
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:19 pm
by Sasin
kama pona!
mi pu. lipu pi jan Sonja li pana e nasin pona pi toki pona.
pona tawa sina!
Re: toki!
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:29 am
by janTepanNetaPelin
kama pona, jan Makuwe o!
sama sina la mi pu. anpa la sina ken kama lukin e lipu mi pi toki pona.
mi tawa.
Re: toki!
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:07 am
by jan_Lope
janTepanNetaPelin wrote:
sama sina la ...
mi tawa.
toki!
"sama sina la ..." means "If your equality is ..."
This make no sense to me.
Re: toki!
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:58 am
by janKipo
Note, the hyper orthodox (but innovative) Lope, does not recognize that 'sama' is a preposition, even though it is in pu. Or maybe he doesn't allow non sentential 'la' phrases.
Re: toki!
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:48 am
by janTepanNetaPelin
jan_Lope wrote:janTepanNetaPelin wrote:
sama sina la ...
mi tawa.
toki!
"sama sina la ..." means "If your equality is ..."
This make no sense to me.
"sama sina li lon, la ..." = "if your equality is ..."
"sama sina la ..." = "at your equality ..." (but I don't mean that)
"sama sina la ..." = "like you ..."
cf.
"tawa sina la ..." = "at your movement ..." (but nobody means that)
"tawa sina la ..." = "to you ..."
Bye!
Re: toki!
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:45 pm
by jan_Lope
janTepanNetaPelin wrote:
"sama sina li lon, la ..." = "if your equality is ..."
"sama sina la ..." = "at your equality ..." (but I don't mean that)
"sama sina la ..." = "like you ..."
"tawa sina la ..." = "at your movement ..." (but nobody means that)
"tawa sina la ..." = "to you ..."
toki!
prepositions are at the beginning of a prepositional object. A prepositional object can't be alone. It need an action before.
A la phrase is for a condition:
A la B. = If A then B.
In your example the condition A is incomplete. You don't say what is "like you" or "to you".
"sama sina la ..." = "at your equality ..." I mean exactly this! So you are not right.
"tawa sina la ..." = "at your movement ..." I mean exactly this! So you are not right.
Please see also
https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https:// ... 0000000000
Much clearer and grammatical correct are these sentences. I think this is what you mean. Everybody can understand it.
sina toki e toki pona, kepeken pu. mi toki e toki pona, kepeken pu kin.
toki!