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toki!

Postby janMakuwe » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:04 am

toki! mi jan Makuwe.
tenpo pini lili la mi esun e pu. tenpo kama lili la ona li kama.
taso mi sona e toki pona. toki pona li pona tawa mi!
mi pakala la o toki tawa mi!
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Re: toki!

Postby janKipo » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:09 pm

jan Makuwe o, kama pona tawa toki pona
sina pakala ala. taso toki pona la nimi pi lipu pi jan Sonja li nimi'pu' ala. mi mute
li kepeken nimi ni lon toki Inli taso.
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Re: toki!

Postby jan_Lope » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:53 am

janMakuwe wrote:toki! mi jan Makuwe.
tenpo pini lili la mi esun e pu. tenpo kama lili la ona li kama.
taso mi sona e toki pona. toki pona li pona tawa mi!
mi pakala la o toki tawa mi!


jan Makuwe o, toki!

ken la lipu mi li ' pona, tawa sina.
https://jan-lope.github.io/Toki_Pona_lessons_English/

ken la ilo mi li ' pona kin, tawa sina.
https://jan-lope.github.io/Toki_Pona-Parser/

pona!
pona!
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Re: toki!

Postby janKipo » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:09 am

The optional commas before prepositional phrases are obligatory in Lope's grammar. Overkill, but maybe better than omitting them when they help (maybe not, too, since they break the flow of reading).
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Re: toki!

Postby Sasin » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:19 pm

kama pona!

mi pu. lipu pi jan Sonja li pana e nasin pona pi toki pona.

pona tawa sina!
ijo li mute li wan
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Re: toki!

Postby janTepanNetaPelin » Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:29 am

kama pona, jan Makuwe o!

sama sina la mi pu. anpa la sina ken kama lukin e lipu mi pi toki pona.

mi tawa.
https://github.com/stefichjo/toki-pona (mi sitelen e lipu ni pi toki pona)
mi jan Tepan. mi pu. mi weka e jan nasa Kipo e jan nasa Lope.
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Re: toki!

Postby jan_Lope » Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:07 am

janTepanNetaPelin wrote:sama sina la ...
mi tawa.


toki!

"sama sina la ..." means "If your equality is ..."

This make no sense to me.
pona!
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Re: toki!

Postby janKipo » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:58 am

Note, the hyper orthodox (but innovative) Lope, does not recognize that 'sama' is a preposition, even though it is in pu. Or maybe he doesn't allow non sentential 'la' phrases.
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Re: toki!

Postby janTepanNetaPelin » Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:48 am

jan_Lope wrote:
janTepanNetaPelin wrote:sama sina la ...
mi tawa.


toki!

"sama sina la ..." means "If your equality is ..."

This make no sense to me.


"sama sina li lon, la ..." = "if your equality is ..."
"sama sina la ..." = "at your equality ..." (but I don't mean that)
"sama sina la ..." = "like you ..."

cf.

"tawa sina la ..." = "at your movement ..." (but nobody means that)
"tawa sina la ..." = "to you ..."

Bye!
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Re: toki!

Postby jan_Lope » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:45 pm

janTepanNetaPelin wrote:"sama sina li lon, la ..." = "if your equality is ..."
"sama sina la ..." = "at your equality ..." (but I don't mean that)
"sama sina la ..." = "like you ..."
"tawa sina la ..." = "at your movement ..." (but nobody means that)
"tawa sina la ..." = "to you ..."


toki!
prepositions are at the beginning of a prepositional object. A prepositional object can't be alone. It need an action before.

A la phrase is for a condition:
A la B. = If A then B.

In your example the condition A is incomplete. You don't say what is "like you" or "to you".

"sama sina la ..." = "at your equality ..." I mean exactly this! So you are not right.
"tawa sina la ..." = "at your movement ..." I mean exactly this! So you are not right.

Please see also
https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https:// ... 0000000000

Much clearer and grammatical correct are these sentences. I think this is what you mean. Everybody can understand it.

sina toki e toki pona, kepeken pu. mi toki e toki pona, kepeken pu kin.


toki!
pona!
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