toki!
nimi mi li Jon.
mi lon ma Tosi.
tenpo pini lili la mi kama sona e toki pona.
anu, mi ken ala ken toki e ni: tenpo pini lili la mi open kama sona e toki pona ?
toki pona li pona tawa mi.
toki!
Re: toki!
jan Kipo o, pona!
mi jo e lipu tu:
lipu nanpa wan li lipu "Toki Pona - the language of good" pi jan Pije en jan Lope.
lipu nanpa tu li lipu "Toki Pona" pi jan Sonja.
mi open kama sona kepeken lipu sona "okamasona" pi jan Pije.
jan Sonja toki e ni lon lipu ona (38): "Examples 1. nimi mi li Apu."
taso, toki sina (... li nimi Apu) li pona mute tawa mi kin.
mi jo e lipu tu:
lipu nanpa wan li lipu "Toki Pona - the language of good" pi jan Pije en jan Lope.
lipu nanpa tu li lipu "Toki Pona" pi jan Sonja.
mi open kama sona kepeken lipu sona "okamasona" pi jan Pije.
jan Sonja toki e ni lon lipu ona (38): "Examples 1. nimi mi li Apu."
taso, toki sina (... li nimi Apu) li pona mute tawa mi kin.
Re: toki!
jan Jon o, toki!jan Jon wrote:toki!
nimi mi li Jon.
mi lon ma Tosi.
tenpo pini lili la mi kama sona e toki pona.
anu, mi ken ala ken toki e ni: tenpo pini lili la mi open kama sona e toki pona ?
toki pona li pona tawa mi.
ni li ' pona, tawa mi. sina kama sona e toki pona.
But what do you mean with your question "anu, mi ken ala ken toki e ni: tenpo pini lili la mi open kama sona e toki pona ?" Do you ask yourself?
BTW: You can check your Toki Pona sentences wit this tool:
https://github.com/jan-Lope/Toki_Pona-Parser
pona!
jan Lope
https://jan-lope.github.io
(Lessons and the Toki Pona Parser - A tool for spelling, grammar check and ambiguity check of Toki Pona)
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jan Lope
https://jan-lope.github.io
(Lessons and the Toki Pona Parser - A tool for spelling, grammar check and ambiguity check of Toki Pona)
On my foe list are the sockpuppets janKipo and janSilipu because of permanent spamming.
Re: toki!
jan Lope o, toki!
So, I wanted to ask: Can I use open as a pre-verb.
Your grammar parser has it commented out, so the sentence fails:
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However, the vocabulary list in "Toki Pona, the language of good" allows open to act as a pre-verb.
I understand jan Kipo has agreed it can be used that way.
"Or, can I (=is it OK to) say this: recently I started to learn toki pona?""anu, mi ken ala ken toki e ni: tenpo pini lili la mi open kama sona e toki pona ?"
So, I wanted to ask: Can I use open as a pre-verb.
Your grammar parser has it commented out, so the sentence fails:
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verb_pre(verb_pre(Verb_pre),Verb_pre) --> [Verb_pre], { member(Verb_pre, [
kama, % to become, to mange to
ken, % to can, may
kepeken, % to use
lukin, % to seek to, try to, look for
% open, % to begin, to start
% pini, % to stop, to finish, to end, to interrupt
pu, % buying and interacting with the official Toki Pona book
sona, % to know how to
wile % to want, need, wish, have to, must, will, should
])
However, the vocabulary list in "Toki Pona, the language of good" allows open to act as a pre-verb.
I understand jan Kipo has agreed it can be used that way.
Re: toki!
jan Jon o, toki!jan Jon wrote:jan Lope o, toki!
"Or, can I (=is it OK to) say this: recently I started to learn toki pona?""anu, mi ken ala ken toki e ni: tenpo pini lili la mi open kama sona e toki pona ?"
So, I wanted to ask: Can I use open as a pre-verb.
Your grammar parser has it commented out, so the sentence fails:
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verb_pre(verb_pre(Verb_pre),Verb_pre) --> [Verb_pre], { member(Verb_pre, [ kama, % to become, to mange to ken, % to can, may kepeken, % to use lukin, % to seek to, try to, look for % open, % to begin, to start % pini, % to stop, to finish, to end, to interrupt pu, % buying and interacting with the official Toki Pona book sona, % to know how to wile % to want, need, wish, have to, must, will, should ])
However, the vocabulary list in "Toki Pona, the language of good" allows open to act as a pre-verb.
I understand jan Kipo has agreed it can be used that way.
sina ' pona!
"open" (and "pini") can be a pre-verb. I 've updated the parser.
But your sentece is not a question - or what would you like to ask?
BTW: Are you using Windows, Linux or Mac OS?
pona!
jan Lope
https://jan-lope.github.io
(Lessons and the Toki Pona Parser - A tool for spelling, grammar check and ambiguity check of Toki Pona)
On my foe list are the sockpuppets janKipo and janSilipu because of permanent spamming.
jan Lope
https://jan-lope.github.io
(Lessons and the Toki Pona Parser - A tool for spelling, grammar check and ambiguity check of Toki Pona)
On my foe list are the sockpuppets janKipo and janSilipu because of permanent spamming.
Re: toki!
BTW, your grammar parser considers it a question:
?- check_grammar(P).
|: mi ken ala ken toki e ni: tenpo pini lili la mi open kama sona e toki pona?
P = s(int(yes_no(np(sub(pronoun(mi))), vp(verb_pre(ken), adverb(ala), verb_pre(ken), verb_tra(toki), obj_d(sep(e), pronoun(ni)))), sep(:), lp(sub((noun(tenpo), adjective(pini), adjective(lili))), sep(la)), sim(np(sub(pronoun(mi))), vp((verb_pre(open), adverb(kama), verb_tra(sona)), obj_d(sep(e), (noun(toki), adjective(pona)))))), sep(?))
?- check_grammar(P).
|: mi ken ala ken toki e ni: tenpo pini lili la mi open kama sona e toki pona?
P = s(int(yes_no(np(sub(pronoun(mi))), vp(verb_pre(ken), adverb(ala), verb_pre(ken), verb_tra(toki), obj_d(sep(e), pronoun(ni)))), sep(:), lp(sub((noun(tenpo), adjective(pini), adjective(lili))), sep(la)), sim(np(sub(pronoun(mi))), vp((verb_pre(open), adverb(kama), verb_tra(sona)), obj_d(sep(e), (noun(toki), adjective(pona)))))), sep(?))
Re: toki!
Grammar and meaning is different. You can build sentences with right grammer but without meaning.jan Jon wrote:BTW, your grammar parser considers it a question:
?- check_grammar(P).
|: mi ken ala ken toki e ni: tenpo pini lili la mi open kama sona e toki pona?
P = s(int(yes_no(np(sub(pronoun(mi))), vp(verb_pre(ken), adverb(ala), verb_pre(ken), verb_tra(toki), obj_d(sep(e), pronoun(ni)))), sep(:), lp(sub((noun(tenpo), adjective(pini), adjective(lili))), sep(la)), sim(np(sub(pronoun(mi))), vp((verb_pre(open), adverb(kama), verb_tra(sona)), obj_d(sep(e), (noun(toki), adjective(pona)))))), sep(?))
What would you like to say?
pona!
jan Lope
https://jan-lope.github.io
(Lessons and the Toki Pona Parser - A tool for spelling, grammar check and ambiguity check of Toki Pona)
On my foe list are the sockpuppets janKipo and janSilipu because of permanent spamming.
jan Lope
https://jan-lope.github.io
(Lessons and the Toki Pona Parser - A tool for spelling, grammar check and ambiguity check of Toki Pona)
On my foe list are the sockpuppets janKipo and janSilipu because of permanent spamming.
Re: toki!
I don't think I can follow you.
First you say:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2648#p15615
First you say:
Now, you seem to agree it's a question:jan_Lope wrote:But your sentece is not a question
Excuse me, but this looks like you were saying my sentence lacks any meaning, which seems like a pretty harsh thing to say.jan_Lope wrote:Grammar and meaning is different. You can build sentences with right grammer but without meaning.
This is what I said before:jan_Lope wrote:What would you like to say?
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2648#p15615
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2648#p15617jan Jon wrote:"Or, can I (=is it OK to) say this: recently I started to learn toki pona?"
So, I wanted to ask: Can I use open as a pre-verb.
Sorry, but I really don't know how to make this any clearer.jan Jon wrote:How would you ask "Can you say mi open kama sona e toki pona" in toki pona?