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toki! nimi mi jan Ana en mi wile sona suli pona e toki pona.

Postby jan Ana » Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:35 pm

pona, jan ali!

ni suno tenpo mi sona toki pona. mi olin toki pona! taso, toki pona mi ike. mi wile toki kepeken ali pi sina! toki e mi, seme nimi sina?
seme ni ali?


suno tenpo pona!

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Re: toki! nimi mi jan Ana en mi wile sona suli pona e toki pona.

Postby janKipo » Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:31 am

kama pona tawa toki pona
sina jan Ana. taso nimi sina li jan ala Ana tan ni: nimi li jan ala. nimi sina li nimi 'Ana'.
notes: 'nimi mi LI jan' every tp sentence goes Subject li Predicate (except if the subject is 'sina' or 'mi' alone).
'en' does not occur between sentences, so 'toki! nimi mi LI jan Ana. mi wile sona suli pona e toki pona.'
Not sure what 'sona suli pona' is to mean, if "very well" then 'sona pi pona mute', if 'well enoihg" then 'sona pi suli pona' or so.
'jan ali O, toki' vocative first, followed by 'o'.
nouns before adjectives, generally exactly the reverse of English, so 'tenpo suno ni LA' 'la' separate consitions (like time) from sentence.
'sona E toki pona' direct object (what something is done to) set off by 'e'.
subject and directobject of 'olin' must be sentient, as languages are not. say "I like it a lot" or so, which is "It is very good to me": 'toki pona li pona mute tawa mi'
'toki pona mi li ike' Subj li Predicate, noun-adjective
'kepeken' is "with" for tools and other means, accompaniment and general interaction is 'poka'. 'pi' must be followed by at least two words, so altogehter 'mi wile toki poka sina ali'.
Impertaive starts with 'o', "talk with" as above: 'o toki poka mi'
'seme li nimi sina?' mi jan Kipo
'seme li ni ali'? What is all this? ?

tenpo suno pona! tawa sina kin!

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Re: toki! nimi mi jan Ana en mi wile sona suli pona e toki pona.

Postby jan_Lope » Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:54 am

jan Ana wrote:pona, jan ali!

ni suno tenpo mi sona toki pona. mi olin toki pona! taso, toki pona mi ike. mi wile toki kepeken ali pi sina! toki e mi, seme nimi sina?
seme ni ali?

suno tenpo pona!


jan Ana o, toki!
mi pona e toki sina:

jan ali o, toki!
tenpo suno ni la mi sona e toki pona. toki pona li pona tawa mi! taso toki pona mi li ike.
mi wile toki, kepeken sona sina! o toki tawa mi: seme li nimi sina?
tenpo suno pona!

mi jan Lope. sina kama sona, kepeken lipu mi.
http://rowa.giso.de/languages/toki-pona ... index.html
pona tawa sina!
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pona!
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Re: toki! nimi mi jan Ana en mi wile sona suli pona e toki pona.

Postby janKipo » Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:56 pm

Well, pretty much. 'toki e mi' should be 'toki tawa mi' (I didn't know Lope's diaect used the the 'e' form.)

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Re: toki! nimi mi jan Ana en mi wile sona suli pona e toki pona.

Postby janAna » Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:59 pm

Nimi sina li jan Ana! Nimi mi li jan Ana! :o

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Re: toki! nimi mi jan Ana en mi wile sona suli pona e toki pona.

Postby janKipo » Sun Mar 06, 2016 8:19 pm

ala. nimi pi sina tu li jan ala Ana tan ni: nimi ala li jan. sina jan. nimi sina li jan ala li nimi. sina jan Ana. nimi sina li nimi 'Ana' taso. pu kin li toke e nimi 'nimi mi li Ana'. ni li pakala li lon ala. nimi 'nimi mi li jan Ana' li lon ala taso. kin la nimi 'jan' li wan ala pi nimi sina.

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Re: toki! nimi mi jan Ana en mi wile sona suli pona e toki pona.

Postby jan_Lope » Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:11 am

janAna wrote:Nimi sina li jan Ana! Nimi mi li jan Ana! :o


jan Ana o, toki!

The first word in a Toki Pona sentence has no capital letter. Capital letters are only for unofficial words (names).

Better than "nimi mi li jan Ana!" ("My name is human Ana.") is "mi jan Ana!" (I'm Ana).

Names (unofficial words) are adjective and need a noun before. You can't say "mi Ana.".

"nimi mi li Ana." is wrong also because there is no noun before the unofficial word. Please see here:
http://rowa.giso.de/languages/toki-pona ... 0000000000

BTW: Some people use the term "modifiers" for adjectives and adverbs. This is imprecise. For example unofficial words are adjectives only and not adverbs.
pona!
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Re: toki! nimi mi jan Ana en mi wile sona suli pona e toki pona.

Postby janAna » Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:39 am

jan_Lope wrote:
janAna wrote:Nimi sina li jan Ana! Nimi mi li jan Ana! :o


jan Ana o, toki!

The first word in a Toki Pona sentence has no capital letter. Capital letters are only for unofficial words (names).

Better than "nimi mi li jan Ana!" ("My name is human Ana.") is "mi jan Ana!" (I'm Ana).

Names (unofficial words) are adjective and need a noun before. You can't say "mi Ana.".

"nimi mi li Ana." is wrong also because there is no noun before the unofficial word. Please see here:
http://rowa.giso.de/languages/toki-pona ... 0000000000

BTW: Some people use the term "modifiers" for adjectives and adverbs. This is imprecise. For example unofficial words are adjectives only and not adverbs.


pona! Does that mean that "sina jan Ana" also works for "You are called Ana?" (And for "She is called Ana" would it be "ona li jan Ana" or "ona jan Ana"?)

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Re: toki! nimi mi jan Ana en mi wile sona suli pona e toki pona.

Postby jan_Lope » Tue Mar 08, 2016 6:27 am

janAna wrote:pona! Does that mean that "sina jan Ana" also works for "You are called Ana?" (And for "She is called Ana" would it be "ona li jan Ana" or "ona jan Ana"?)


sina pona!

"ona li jan Ana." is right.
"ona jan Ana." is wrong.

Please see
http://rowa.giso.de/languages/toki-pona ... 0000000000
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Re: toki! nimi mi jan Ana en mi wile sona suli pona e toki pona.

Postby janKipo » Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:45 am

You definitely need the 'li'. You only drop 'li' with 'mi' and 'sina'.


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