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Svenska => Wense most likely. I find most transliterated proper nouns to be unrecognizable. The transliteration advice recommends using the language that would be used in that country as the starting point, but the effort feels wasted when it is unrecognizable. I don't remember if there was any advice how how to deal with country/language name pairs that don't match up or have an adjective version, e.g. Great Britain/English, German/German, France/French I use the country ones a lot anyhow because there is a published, well known version of country names and sometimes they are useful for phrase creation strategies, pan could be anything from pancakes to cookies or chocolate cake, but pan Kanse is probably a baguette of some sort.janSewi wrote:Thank you! The "r" in Sverige is not very pronounced; in many dialects its non-existent. Perhaps "ma Seje" would be less contrived than "ma Suweje"? (What is the etymology of Wense?)
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China is a case in point: country Zhongguo Sonko, language Hanyu or Zhongwen (Anju or Sonwen), people and general adjective Han (An) -- with lots of additions and variations. And, of curse, United States, English, American.
The old list has Wensa for both the language and the country and Kanse for French and France, but Sonko and Sonwen for China and Chinese.
The old list has Wensa for both the language and the country and Kanse for French and France, but Sonko and Sonwen for China and Chinese.
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Useful in communication to use a well known list, I'll keep that in mind. (On the other hand, being creative when it comes to unofficial words trains the mind and brings opportunities for clarifying communication, which may be more valuable in the long run...)
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Re: tokiponizing proper nouns that in English or the native language decompose to a phrase-- jan Sonja usually treats it all as one word, but sometimes not:
Nujoka New York
Nuwansa New Hampashire
Nupenlan Newfoundland
Nusilan New Zealand
Nuwewen New Haven
but compare
toki Nosiki sin Norwegian Nynorsk
toki Elena pi tenpo pini Greek, Ancient
toki Inli pona Basic English
Nujoka New York
Nuwansa New Hampashire
Nupenlan Newfoundland
Nusilan New Zealand
Nuwewen New Haven
but compare
toki Nosiki sin Norwegian Nynorsk
toki Elena pi tenpo pini Greek, Ancient
toki Inli pona Basic English