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janTali
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toki! mi jan Tali

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ali o, toki!
mi jan Tali. mi jan sin pi toki pona. mi sona e toki Inli en toki ante kin.
mi wile e ni: mi jan pi ilo pi toki lili. mi sitelen e nimi pona pi poki sitelen mi, li kama ala jo e sitelen pi ken kama, li ken ala kepeken e ilo ni, li pilin ike. mi o pali e seme?

sina sona e toki mi, la mi pilin pona. mi pakala la sina o pona e mi.

ali o pona!
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mi sona e mute pi toki sina. taso mi sona ike (anu ala) e nimi 'ilo pi toki lili' e nimi 'poki sitelen' e nimi 'sitelen pi ken kama' kepeken toki Inli la mi sona e nimi "device for small talk" (anu ken la "toki lili site") e nimi "box of writings" (anu "mail box") e "writings about future possibilities". o weka e sona ala mi.
toki ante sina l seme?
just 'mi pali e seme' (not imperative or subjunctive)
'o sina pona e mi' or just 'o pona e mi'
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janKipo wrote:mi sona e mute pi toki sina. taso mi sona ike (anu ala) e nimi 'ilo pi toki lili' e nimi 'poki sitelen' e nimi 'sitelen pi ken kama' kepeken toki Inli la mi sona
e nimi "device for small talk" (anu ken la "toki lili site")
I meant the website tokilili.shoutem.com. If I had written 'kulupu pi toki lili', would you have understood better?
e nimi "box of writings" (anu "mail box")
By 'poki sitelen' I meant 'mailbox'. Is there a standard term?
e "writings about future possibilities"
'sitelen pi ken kama' was my shot at 'activation e-mail'. On that site there is a big KAMA/LOGIN button and I was thinking more in terms of 'writing about login possibility'. I am fascinated by the fact that it works with kama's basic meaning as well. An activation e-mail is in fact a writing about future possibilities :) I wasn't able to convey the proper contextualization...

The problem was that when I tried to sign up at tokilili.shoutem.com, the e-mail with the required activation link didn't reach my mailbox. This is fixed now, as I have already written on another thread.
toki ante sina l seme?
toki mi pi nanpa wan li toki Italija. mi sona pona mute e toki Epelanto e toki Kanse e toki Tosi e toki Epanja, li sona pona lili e toki ante. tenpo ni la mi kama sona e toki Alapi li ken ala kepeken e ona. ken la tenpo kama la mi ken.
just 'mi pali e seme' (not imperative or subjunctive)
I meant "what should I do?" but I understand that my brain is still loaded with a lot of unnecessary ballast ;) I agree, "what do I do?" is just as fine.
'o sina pona e mi' or just 'o pona e mi'
OK. This is clear. I have some more questions about 'o' and I'll ask them in 'kama sona toki'. Thank you very much for your help.

Mi tawa
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Sorry to be a fussbudget. I did get both of them on the second bounce, which is pretty good for me. While I am not terribly happy with it, 'lipu' has become the standard word for websites. 'ilo' tends to be a concrete thing, a machine or tool of some sort. In that respect it is somewhat better than 'lipu' but still not one I like a lot (not that that matters), On the other hand, 'poki sitelen' seems just about right, aside from the usual worries about calques -- does every language call it something like a box?
I suppose, calquing again, that the KAMA/LOGIN button is something like 'nena pi pali/toki/sitelen kama' but there is no standard that I know of ('kama' for 'login' was a surprise to me).
Nice natural language spread! Give us some insights into how things might go better in tp.
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does every language call it something like a box?


At least, now it's not a box, doesn't look like box etc. I'd like to be more context-aware in that case. Leter may be "toki" when it's conversational, "ijo pana" when not read, and so. And "lipu" for website is completely alien for me. Even "ma sitelen" makes more snce. Or, if referred by adress, "nimi pi ijo sona" :-) or so.
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nimi "lipu" li pona tawa mi. tenpo pini (en tenpo ni kin) la, jan li sitelen e lipu kepeken ilo sitelen. tenpo ni la, jan li sitelen e lipu pi lon ilo Intene kepeken ilo sitelen. nimi "sitelen" (write/type) li sama. nimi "ilo sitelen" (pencil/keyboard) li sama kin. tan ni la, nimi "lipu" (book/webpage) li sama li pona.

sama la, mi pilin e ni: nimi "poki sitelen" li pona kin.

a, kama pona lon ma pi toki pona! :P (... anu sina wile toki e ni tawa mi. sina jan sin lili. taso mi jan sin mute. a a a.)
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jan_Anti wrote:nimi "lipu" li pona tawa mi. tenpo pini (en tenpo ni kin) la, jan li sitelen e lipu kepeken ilo sitelen. tenpo ni la, jan li sitelen e lipu pi lon ilo Intene kepeken ilo sitelen. nimi "sitelen" (write/type) li sama. nimi "ilo sitelen" (pencil/keyboard) li sama kin. tan ni la, nimi "lipu" (book/webpage) li sama li pona.

sama la, mi pilin e ni: nimi "poki sitelen" li pona kin.

a, kama pona lon ma pi toki pona! :P (... anu sina wile toki e ni tawa mi. sina jan sin lili. taso mi jan sin mute. a a a.)
sitelen toki pi wawa pi lukin ala :lol:
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Language writing of the power of the blind?
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janSilipu wrote:Language writing of the power of the blind?
writing by invisible force i meant. But your reading much more interesting! :D
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Well, that, too.
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