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3 nights into second life

Community: Meet and greet, introductions, networking, gatherings, events, what's new in your life?
Komunumo: Interkoniĝo, sinprezentoj, socia retumado, renkontiĝoj, eventoj, kio novas en via vivo?
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Re: 3 nights into second life

Postby janHanoki » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:42 pm

How active is the Toki Pona community on Second Life? I recently rejoined it to chat with jbopre.

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Re: 3 nights into second life

Postby janKipo » Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:33 pm

Errr, who's Spanish and who Chamurro? Lojban pretty much retains Loglan grammar (with additions) and large parts of its semantics, changes the words (though keeping mainly the same morphological constraints). Since the nineties, they have diverged even further, but still show their family resemblances while being mutually unintelligible (for the most part) and not even simply intertranslatable (though sometimes word-for-word actually works pretty well).

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Re: 3 nights into second life

Postby Kuti » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:41 am


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Re: 3 nights into second life

Postby janHanoki » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:46 pm


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Re: 3 nights into second life

Postby Kuti » Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:12 am

this is the land http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/S ... 4/117/1451
and for the group just type "tokipona" in the search tool.
there is also a group called "conlangers in virtuality"

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Re: 3 nights into second life

Postby janHanoki » Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:11 am


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Re: 3 nights into second life

Postby Kuti » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:50 pm

Due to the lack of people interested in both toki pona and second life, i consider the result of this experiment being a big fail. You can consider it as an official end. There is still a group in sl that you could join if you like. But i quit. Case closed.

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Re: 3 nights into second life

Postby janMato » Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:51 pm

oh, well. I'm not really sure who 2nd life is optimized for, people who in real life are arts and crafts hobbyists seem to exist in large number. Maybe to get that audience's attention, one would have to explain how toki pona can be used in the context of crafts, maybe a crafty person could write a recipe for a craft in toki pona and people who followed the recipe would create a wide variety of different creative things because instruction in toki pona leave so much up to the imagination of the reader.

I do fairly strongly believe that the audience for any conlang is polyglots (either professionals like translators, or amateur-hobbyists) and the "invited" audience, which for toki pona is sort of the world of politically left leaning progressives (by progressives, I mean people who generally see the world as a place where a better solution for everything is out there waiting to be discovered). The original core of ma pi toki pona came from the Esperantists, who mostly fit that bill. Maybe future growth will come from inviting more of the world of people who haven't thought much about languages, but already think of themselves as progressives.

Or Muslims-- but I'm still having a hard time on how Islamic features could be retrofitted onto the languages foundational documents.

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Re: 3 nights into second life

Postby Kuti » Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:06 am

Second life has people who have problems in real life and goes there to forget them; everyone else are artists, or curious passerbyes ( but those don't stay long )

Tokipona mussn't have get esperantists first, but people interested in taoism.
Lots of tokiponians seems to not care at all about the philosophy.
toki pona is : langage + minimalistic simplicity + taoist phylosophy.
But is taken as : game language
So the audience is not well targeted.
And esperantists already have their wonderful language, why bother with tokipona?
And therefore, conlangers already knew two or many more languages, and that is why we are using english right now.

I don't know about muslims. I don't like religions at all.

But it is too late for SL, i gave up
i don't think if i'm still beliving in conlangs; i'm a bit tired of this all. This leads to nowhere

yesterday someone called me a "devoted" tokiponian :?
seems that i need a break


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