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Re: toki! jan ale pi toki pona o a!

Postby janKipo » Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:55 pm

'telo LI anpa'
I agree that this seems very odd, since we use two different words and here we have only one, which appears to mean "then" in two different senses. But 'la' actually means something more like "under these [just given] conditions", which is much vaguer. Indeed, the distinction between "if" and "when" in English is often just as you imply -- something about the certainty of the antecedent occurring. In fact, we often correct the one with the other, to indicate a degree of confidence . That distinction, however, is not relevant to 'la', which is rather what is left over when that distinction is dropped, something closer to the logicians' "if...then...", where all that counts is the actual truth of the components and everything is fine so long as we don't have both the antecedent true and the consequent false.

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Re: toki! jan ale pi toki pona o a!

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Re: toki! jan ale pi toki pona o a!

Postby janMato » Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:28 pm


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Re: toki! jan ale pi toki pona o a!

Postby Mako » Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:45 pm


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Re: toki! jan ale pi toki pona o a!

Postby janKipo » Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:13 am

'soweli li mu' is sufficient and more accurate, since soweli don't generally toki.

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Re: toki! jan ale pi toki pona o a!

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Re: toki! jan ale pi toki pona o a!

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Re: toki! jan ale pi toki pona o a!

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