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janKipo
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Re: toki! jan ale pi toki pona o a!

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'telo LI anpa'
I agree that this seems very odd, since we use two different words and here we have only one, which appears to mean "then" in two different senses. But 'la' actually means something more like "under these [just given] conditions", which is much vaguer. Indeed, the distinction between "if" and "when" in English is often just as you imply -- something about the certainty of the antecedent occurring. In fact, we often correct the one with the other, to indicate a degree of confidence . That distinction, however, is not relevant to 'la', which is rather what is left over when that distinction is dropped, something closer to the logicians' "if...then...", where all that counts is the actual truth of the components and everything is fine so long as we don't have both the antecedent true and the consequent false.
mije Kewen
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Re: toki! jan ale pi toki pona o a!

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janMato wrote:jan mije Kiwen o!
toki!

sina tan ma seme?

mi tan ma Kanesika lon ma Mewika.

sina pali e seme tawa mani?

tenpo ni la mi sona ala toki e ona kepeken toki pona.
i install satellite dishes for television.

sina jo ala jo e soweli tomo? sina jo la soweli li soweli seme?
mi jo e soweli lili lon tomo mi. ona li jo e nimi Jax. ona li soweli Dog kepeken toki Inli.
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Re: toki! jan ale pi toki pona o a!

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mije Kewen wrote:i install satellite dishes for television.
Probably...
mi pali e ilo ni pi sitelen tawa: ilo li toki tawa mun lili pi toki ilo.
I do work with these devices of the TV: the devices talk to the small stars of mechanical communication.
mun lili is any small dot in the sky.
mije Kewen wrote:mi jo e soweli lili lon tomo mi. ona li jo e nimi Jax. ona li soweli Dog kepeken toki Inli.
soweli mi li ken toki e mu. mute la soweli mi li toki e mu li wile e moku li wile musi.
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Re: toki! jan ale pi toki pona o a!

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janMato wrote:
mije Kewen wrote:i install satellite dishes for television.
Probably...
mi pali e ilo ni pi sitelen tawa: ilo li toki tawa mun lili pi toki ilo.
I do work with these devices of the TV: the devices talk to the small stars of mechanical communication.
mun lili is any small dot in the sky.
mije Kewen wrote:mi jo e soweli lili lon tomo mi. ona li jo e nimi Jax. ona li soweli Dog kepeken toki Inli.
soweli mi li ken toki e mu. mute la soweli mi li toki e mu li wile e moku li wile musi.
soweli pi mama mi li toki e mu. mute la soweli ni li toki e mu li wile pana e ko jaki ona.
janKipo
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Re: toki! jan ale pi toki pona o a!

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'soweli li mu' is sufficient and more accurate, since soweli don't generally toki.
mije Kewen
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Re: toki! jan ale pi toki pona o a!

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janKipo wrote:jan Kewen o. kama pona tawa lipu pi toki pona.
taso nimi sina li jan ala . sina nimi ala. tan ni la o sitelen e kulupu 'mi jan Kewen' anu 'nimi mi li nimi 'Kewen'.
ante la ni li pona mute.
pona a! mi awen e sona ni. tenpo pini mute mi toki ala e toki pona tawa jan ante.
mije Kewen
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Re: toki! jan ale pi toki pona o a!

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janMato wrote:
mije Kewen wrote:i install satellite dishes for television.
Probably...
mi pali e ilo ni pi sitelen tawa: ilo li toki tawa mun lili pi toki ilo.
I do work with these devices of the TV: the devices talk to the small stars of mechanical communication.
mun lili is any small dot in the sky.
a! pona a! mi toki e ni la mi toki kepeken toki ni: ilo sike li toki tawa ilo sike ante lon sewi. ona li pana e sitelen tawa.
mije Kewen wrote:mi jo e soweli lili lon tomo mi. ona li jo e nimi Jax. ona li soweli Dog kepeken toki Inli.
soweli mi li ken toki e mu. mute la soweli mi li toki e mu li wile e moku li wile musi.
soweli mi Jax li ken mu li ken toki kepeken toki sinpin li ken toki e mu pi soweli Pig (snort). ona li ken toki kepeken toki mute a! 8-)
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Re: toki! jan ale pi toki pona o a!

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mije Kewen wrote:soweli mi Jax li ken mu li ken toki kepeken toki sinpin li ken toki e mu pi soweli Pig (snort). ona li ken toki kepeken toki mute a! 8-)
pona a kin! Pigs might be soweli mani or mani soweli: http://en.tokipona.org/wiki/Talk:mani (along with all other agriculturally valuable animals)
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