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Re: tomo sona

Postby jan-ante » Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:49 pm


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Re: tomo sona

Postby mije Wi » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:03 pm

Comma being not official, I don't think 'tawa pi tomo tawa pi mama mije mi, tomo sona pi suli kasi' is ok.
If I'm correct the modifiers of the verb tawa mean both "how" and "to where". This is a huge problem.
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Re: tomo sona

Postby janKipo » Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:54 pm

Well, when you get a mess like this (which you shouldn't do, by the way == the trick moving the vehicle around to after] kepeken' is encouraged) any little bit helps. Commas are (for now) merely devices in teaching to help see what is going on, not part of the language.

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Re: tomo sona

Postby mije Wi » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:13 pm

Hopely ultimate version is...

tenpo suno pini la mi tawa tomo sona suli lon ma tomo ante kepeken tomo tawa pi mama mije. mi kama jan pi kama sona pi suli kasi.

Is this correct?
Maybe ...mi tawa tomo sona suli lon ma ante... is simplier (it doesn't matter it is a city: the focus is on ante)

What do you think of it?
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Re: tomo sona

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Re: tomo sona

Postby janKipo » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:31 pm

Yes, 'ma tomo ante'
'suli kasi' means (among other things, as always) "raising/growing plants".

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Re: tomo sona

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Re: tomo sona

Postby janKipo » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:15 am

Alas, as noted, all of these patterns hold; which one applies in a given case "context will decide."

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Re: tomo sona

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Re: tomo sona

Postby janKipo » Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:41 pm

No, word order makes a difference. For one thing, tp compounds are endocentric so that 'waso tawa' is a bird and 'tawa waso' is as way of going. So, suli kasi is a kind of suli; the question is whether it is of the vt suli or va suli, and, if the latter, of the noun or the adjective: raising plants or the maturity of plants or the size of plants. 'suli kasi' doesn't mean "big plant".


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