A range of possibilities

Signs and symbols: Writing systems (hieroglyphs, nail writing) and Signed Toki Pona; unofficial scripts too
Signoj kaj simboloj: Skribsistemoj (hieroglifoj, ungoskribado) kaj la Tokipona Signolingvo; ankaŭ por neoficialaj skribsistemoj
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Re: A range of possibilities

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Kuti wrote:http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/goglobal/bb964665.aspx
ilo ni ken pana e sitelen ale ;)
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janKipo wrote:Simplified forms please. There are already a number of logogram suggestions a float.
QFT. Chinese needs complex characters. Toki Pona is minimalist and simple- stealing kanji would be a step backwards IMHO.
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Some very ancient ( read simple) characters might be good, but the basic point you make seems right.
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rdmiller3 wrote:Actually, there is... but it was just something I was playing with. I called it "hó ni" (toki pona). I haven't messed with it in months though.

Syllables were consonant-vowel, using eight consonants and five vowels with three tones. I'd have to add something else to handle the new words though, since 8*5*3=120.

I suppose I could allow for final -m/-n like in real Toki Pona, or for consonant clusters or for a fourth tone.

Anyway, I came up with it just to see what playing with an artificial tonal language might be like.
I know this is an old post but is there a word list available for hó ni anywhere?
人り有え人上ら人り要物無。
ین لی یۆ إ ین سوی لا ین لی ئولی أۆ إ ئیو ألا
.ין לי יו א ין סוי לה ין לי וילה ייו אלה
ܝܲܢ ܠܝܼ ܝܘܿ ܥܹ ܝܲܢ ܣܹܘܝܼ ܠܲܐ ܝܲܢ ܠܝܼ ܘܝܼܠܹܥ ܝܼܝܘܿ ܐܲܠܲܐ.
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mije Wi wrote:There is another good reason: I would like writing Japanese a lot.
新ら画え話語良使画カンシり良去私
しん ら してれん え とき とき ぽな けぺけん してれん カンシ リ ぽな たわ み
sin la sitelen e toki toki pona kepeken sitelen Kansi li pona tawa mi.
notice I used both 話 and 語 for 'toki'. The first is speak, the second is language.
Using only hiragana would look funny to me honestly.

what about something like devanagari if we were going to use an entirely syllabic script?

टोकी पाना ली पाना तव मि.
toki pona li pona tawa mi.

The only issue there might be with it is that devanagari is an abugida which means there is an inherent 'a' attached to each consonant unless another vowel is written. प is 'pa', not 'p'. 'pe' 'pi' 'po' & 'pu' would be पे पी पो & पु. If you wanted to include it, 'pa' would look like 'पा', but that would technically be 'paa'.

य क ल म न प स ट व
आ ए ई ओ ऊ
using the phonetic devanagari keyboard they would be:
y k l m n p s T w
a e I o U
There is इ for i (पि, pa) & उ for u (पु, pu), but the former is more of an 'i' (it) sound than 'i:' (eat) & the latter is 'ʊ' (look) not 'u:' (luke)
in syllables that would be
य ये यो यू
ja je jo ju
क के की को कू
ka ke ki ko ku
ल ले ली लो लू
la le li lo lu
म मे मी मो मू
ma me mi mo mu
न ने नी नो नू
na ne ni no nu
प पे पी पो पू
pa pe pi po pu
स से सी सो सू
sa se si so su
ट टे टो टू
ta te to tu

अ ए ई ओ ऊ
a e i o u

The final 'n' is a diacritic that goes over the letter before it, ं.
pana would be पन, pan would be पं(pa+n)
केपेकें =kepeken
सीटेलें=sitelen
मी कें सीटेलें ए टोकी टोकी पोन केपेकें सीटेलें टेवनकवी.
mi ken sitelen e toki toki pona kepeken sitelen Tewanakawi.
人り有え人上ら人り要物無。
ین لی یۆ إ ین سوی لا ین لی ئولی أۆ إ ئیو ألا
.ין לי יו א ין סוי לה ין לי וילה ייו אלה
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