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Toki Pona Forums • How do you say/translate this word/phrase into Toki Pona?
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How do you say/translate this word/phrase into Toki Pona?

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:56 pm
by KNTRO
Hi all,

I'm starting this thread for asking how would you say a word or a sentence in Toki Pona. I could already save some, but some other words and phrases are getting tricky in my head.

For instance, a couple of hours ago, I was thinking about how one would say a known person in Toki Pona. I first thought of jan sona, but jan sona [NOUN NOUN] is a person of knowledge, like a teacher or a wiseman/wisewoman. However, according to The Official Toki Pona Book, you can convert any verb as an adjective [page 26], so I think jan sona [NOUN ADJECTIVE] could be translated as a known person as well, but I'm not sure.

What do you think, people?

Thanks a lot for reading!

Re: How do you say/translate this word/phrase into Toki Pona?

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:15 am
by janKipo
The first problem is that adj sona means "knowing", not "known", there is no tp passive. So, to say he is known means somebody knows him, but that is hard to work into a tidy phrase. The doesn't seem to be a good direct solution. The best approach seems to be to reword the whole sentence with the phrase.

Re: How do you say/translate this word/phrase into Toki Pona?

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:15 am
by janKipo
The first problem is that adj sona means "knowing", not "known", there is no tp passive. So, to say he is known means somebody knows him, but that is hard to work into a tidy phrase. The doesn't seem to be a good direct solution. The best approach seems to be to reword the whole sentence with the phrase.

Re: How do you say/translate this word/phrase into Toki Pona?

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:24 pm
by KNTRO
Thanks for your answer, Kipo!

These explanations of yours help me to understand Toki Pona deeper!

Re: How do you say/translate this word/phrase into Toki Pona?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:19 am
by janTepanNetaPelin

Re: How do you say/translate this word/phrase into Toki Pona?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:56 pm
by janKipo
I have become a big fan of ‘ni:’, not just for indirect discourse but also for complex modifiers, like passives and expressions like “so ... that..” ('mama sina li suli ni: ona jo e nanpa sama pi ma pi lon pi lipu pana toki’). Constantly finding new uses.

Re: How do you say/translate this word/phrase into Toki Pona?

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:38 am
by KNTRO
Hi all,

How would you people say freedom/liberty in Toki Pona?

Thanks in advance.

Re: How do you say/translate this word/phrase into Toki Pona?

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:51 am
by janKipo
Mainly ‘ken’ though ‘wile’ and ‘wawa’ also get used, but with different emphases.

Re: How do you say/translate this word/phrase into Toki Pona?

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:53 pm
by janTepanNetaPelin

Re: How do you say/translate this word/phrase into Toki Pona?

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:52 am
by PimejaWalo
i hope you won't mind me hijacking this thread.

when thinking about toki pona i often try to translate everyday words. sometimes i am pleased with my ideas, sometimes i am not so satisfied.
- a dog: soweli pi jan alasa. a hunter's animal. then again, this could also mean game animals.
- a cat: soweli pi moku waso. an animal catching birds. i don't want to get into having to first describe a mouse :).
- a doctor: jan pi pona jan. a person helping other people. vague.
- a fridge: poki lete
- a pizza: pan sike lipu. a round and flat bread. not perfect, but concise
- milk: telo soweli
- yogurt: ko walo pi telo soweli. a white dairy matter
- butter: ko jelo pi telo soweli. a yellow dairy matter. dairy products are difficult to disambiguate :)
- a cow: soweli ma pi lawa pi nena palisa. a horned animal from plains.
- a goat: soweli nena pi lawa pi nena palisa. a horned animal from hills.

if you know a much better way to express any of the words, please let me know.