Grammar/when to use li and e

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Re: Grammar/when to use li and e

Postby janKipo » Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:48 pm

yes, onethat sets a context within which the statement it introduces is true. But notice the use of emotive words, too, and structural ones. it's very busy.

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Re: Grammar/when to use li and e

Postby JanKanle » Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:36 pm

And yet, no word for a domestic animal. Get your priorities straight, pu.

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Re: Grammar/when to use li and e

Postby janKipo » Sat Oct 24, 2015 6:01 pm

Well. 'mani' applies first of all to domestic herd animals (whatever they happen to be locally) . And 'soweli tomo' covers them and the more at-home sorts. Throw in 'waso tomo' and you pretty much have the lot (I don't believe in akesi tomo or kala tomo as real domestic animals).

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Re: Grammar/when to use li and e

Postby JanKanle » Sat Oct 24, 2015 7:46 pm

Is that a recent word? I only have a 120 word dictionary

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Re: Grammar/when to use li and e

Postby janKipo » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:16 pm

'mani' is pretty old. usually glossed as "money" but the "original meaning" is listed in pu among the official 120.

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Re: Grammar/when to use li and e

Postby JanKanle » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:36 pm

:oops: oh shit lol. yeah, I knew that. I used it in my description of a capitalist in the other thread.

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Re: Grammar/when to use li and e

Postby jan_Lope » Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:34 am

JanKanle wrote:I don't know how to use li and e correctly.


Maybe my lessons can help you to understand better the separators "li", "e", "pi" and "la":

http://rowa.giso.de/languages/toki-pona ... essons.php

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Re: Grammar/when to use li and e

Postby janKipo » Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:52 pm

Lope's lessons are not wrong, but his rules are unduly restrictive and you might get better results elsewhere, pu or even Pije. For instance, in his formal grammar -- which seems to mirror his lessons well -- he finds six different readings of 'tenpo pi suli mute li pona' but none of them is "A very long time is good", which is the most obvious reading outside special contexts.


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