soweli pi nena kiwen

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soweli pi nena kiwen

Postby jan Ote » Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:10 am

soweli pi nena kiwen li lon ma Apika en ma Asija. ona li jo e palisa kiwen luka suli e palisa monsi suli. selo ona li sama selo akesi. nena selo kiwen mute li lon selo ali ona. ni li nasa.

soweli ni li jo e ijo walo uta ala. ona moku kepeken nasin ni: tenpo pimeja la ona li kama sona pi lon pi tomo pipi kepeken pilin nena pona ona. soweli li pali e lupa lon tomo pipi kepeken palisa kiwen luka suli. palisa ni li suli mute. tan ni la soweli ni li wile tawa la ona li sike e luka ona. lupa lon tomo pipi li lon la soweli li moku e pipi kepeken palisa uta ona. palisa uta ni li linja. taso ona li suli sama noka jan li jo e telo uta ko. tan ni la soweli ni ken moku e pipi mute kepeken nasin ni.

jan li moku kepeken ijo walo uta ala la insa ona li pilin ike. insa pi soweli pi nena kiwen li pilin ike ala tan ni: ona li jo e kiwen mute lon insa ona sama waso. taso pipi li wawa li wile ala tawa insa soweli. tan ni la palisa uta pi soweli ni li tan uta ala. ona li tan insa ona. a! ona li pana e pipi tawa insa ona la pipi li ken ala weka.

soweli pi nena kiwen li lon kulupu soweli ala. kulupu awen ona li mama en soweli lili. tenpo wan pi tenpo sike la meli li kama tawa mije tan ni: ona li wile unpa e ona. taso lon wan li pona tawa soweli ni tan ni: jan li lape la jan ike anu soweli ike ken moku e ona. taso soweli pi nena kiwen li ken sike e sijelo ona. nena selo kiwen ona li ken pakala e soweli ike. soweli pi nena kiwen li pilin e ni: "sina wile moku e mi la nena kiwen mi li pakala e sina. sina pakala e mi la mi pini e lape li pakala wawa e sina kepeken palisa kiwen mi. sina wile ala wile moku e mi?"


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Re: soweli pi nena kiwen

Postby janKipo » Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:57 pm

0r 'selo' more commonly (I was expecting mountain goats).
don't need both 'tawa's before 'insa'
pangolin if anyone asks.

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Re: soweli pi nena kiwen

Postby jan Ote » Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:34 pm

janKipo wrote:0r 'selo' more commonly
I'm not sure what you mean?

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Re: soweli pi nena kiwen

Postby jan Ote » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:19 am

Could be this would be better:
... ona li jo e palisa kiwen luka suli e palisa monsi suli. selo ona li sama selo akesi. nena selo kiwen mute li lon selo ali ona. ni li nasa.

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Re: soweli pi nena kiwen

Postby janKipo » Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:47 am

I didn't really mind 'nena';it was just a surprise use.

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Re: soweli pi nena kiwen

Postby jan Ote » Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:09 pm

Ah, I see! Thank you.

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Re: soweli pi nena kiwen

Postby Sandrigodja » Sun Oct 11, 2015 5:49 pm

sitelen toki sina li pona! :)
sitelen toki li tan ni, la toki pona sona mi li kama e pona. ;)

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Re: soweli pi nena kiwen

Postby janKipo » Sun Oct 11, 2015 6:43 pm

sitelen toki li tan ni, la toki pona sona mi li kama e pona
"If the text is because of this, my wise good message brings a good." While this makes good sense (I'm assuming that 'ni' refers to 'toki ... mi'), I don't know what that message is, because it is not on this page. So, I suspect you meant something else, but I am not sure what. (I'm not too happy about 'ni' referring to a noun phrase, but I am not sure 'ona' can be used predictively.) I am also not sure what the sitelen toki -- which is apparently the good brought -- is.

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Re: soweli pi nena kiwen

Postby jan Same » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:02 am

[ I changed my username ] -------------
a a a mi ala wawa ^^
"sitelen toki li tan ni, la toki pona sona mi li kama e pona"
I wanted to say: Thanks to this text, my knowledge of took pona is becoming better
sitelen toki: article
li tan ni: thanks to
toki pona sona: knowledge of toki pona
li kama e pona: is becoming good

tenpo suno luka tu taso li sona e toki pona
(I've been learning toki pona for only one week)

Thanks for correcting my mistakes janKipo, I've got a lot more to learn than I thought ^^

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Re: soweli pi nena kiwen

Postby janKipo » Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:05 am

tenpo suno luka tu taso la mi kama sona e toki pona
Notice: times are at the beginning separated by 'la' (or at the end after a preposition, but that is not so well worked out)
Verbs need a subject, before the 'li' (which gets dropped with 'mi' and 'sina')
'kama sona' for "learn", 'sona' suggests you already know it.

"li tan ni: thanks to" this, but it is set up as a sentence "The article is thanks to/because/caused by this" Where the "this" tends to be looking ahead in that position, rather than backwards (and, since the preceding is a simple noun phrase, 'ona' would be better than 'ni' anyhow). What you want is simply 'tan sitelen toki la' "Because of the article,"

"toki pona sona: knowledge of toki pona" Modifiers come after heads in tp so exactly parallel in this case to the English : 'sona pi toki pona' Since you mean your knowledge, you might (but don't really need to, since it is easily understood) add 'mi' either at the end or, more clearly, right after 'sona'

"li kama e pona: is becoming good" 'kama' is a modal, so takes the verb (which may be a noun or adjective in this case) immediately after it: just 'li kama pona' (with 'e'. 'kama' becomes a causative, meaning "causes the direct object to ....')


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