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oko

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:40 am
by jan Nowo
I would like to suggest another meaning for "oko", namely supervise, check etc.

mi oko e oko mi. ona li pona. I checked my eye. It is all right.

A beautiful symetrical sentence, isn't it.

I already added vt order, command to Tokiponian-Slovak dictionary, so let us see if the usage will hold. It depends on how many Slovaks are learning the language;).

As a noun:

ona li oko lawa pi kupulu olin. She is a director of the supervisory board of the foundation. Pretty compact, right?
You do not often find a sentence in tp, whose translation is longer than the original.

Norbert

Re: oko

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:56 am
by janKipo
Unlike using 'o' as a verb, this one seems totally natural; indeed, I was surprised it had not turned up before as the applicative verbalization "apply eyes to". Of course, I get suspicious of calqueing, but since this works in both English and Slovak. it has a claim to common human stockpiles.

Re: oko

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:03 pm
by jan
What is the reason to have the verb "lukin" if we can use "oko" as a verb with same meaning ?

Re: oko

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:05 pm
by janKipo
Fair question, to which there is no reasoned answer, just a retelling of the history of selecting words and the growth of the derivational processes within the language. 'ilo' and 'kepeken' are similarly close to matching and there are probably others. Notice all the other sense organs lack separate names, as do most of the senses. I think that in at least one draft leading up to pu, 'oko' was dropped for 'sike lukin'. Nowo's use of 'oko' does differ fro 'lukin' in having a more active sense of supervision, of watching not merely seeing, and so on.

Re: oko

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:41 am
by janSepo
I like the idea. "oko" could also mean "plan", "consider" in addition.

Re: oko

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:04 pm
by janTepanNetaPelin
janSepo wrote:I like the idea. "oko" could also mean "plan", "consider" in addition.


P.S.: I changed my name to jan Tepan.

Re: oko

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:40 pm
by janKipo
Thanks. What is the 'NetaPelin', which does not obviously connect to "Schneider" ('kipisi len')?