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akesi kon tu

Postby jan_endy » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:33 pm

Toki.
Here is a text I wrote to learn toki pona.
Can somebody have a look at it and tell me if there are some errors?
Do you like it?
Thanks a lot
Endi

akesi kon tu

tenpo pini mute la jan Voltikeln li lawa ike mute pi ma Plitani. ona li jo ike e
supa lawa pi lawa moli. ona li moli e mije lili pi lawa moli. taso mije lili si
n li moli ala li tawa weka. Jan Voltikeln li monsuta e mije lili ni. ona li wile
pali e tomo sewi. tomo ni li suli mute li sewi mute. jan aka li ken utala e tom
o ni.

pali li kama lon nena suli. taso sinpin lili li pakala li kama e kiwen lili. pal
i li kama e tenpo mute. sinpin li pakala e tenpo mute. jan sona li toki e ni taw
a jan Voltikeln: sinpin li sewi ken kepeken telo loje pi jan lili. jan lili ni l
i luka tu li jo ala e mama mije.

jan utala pi lawa li weka li jo wile e jan lili ni. utala li tawa e ma tomo. jan
Mellin li kama tawa ona li toki e ni:
"sina wile e mi. mi luka tu. mi jo ala e mama mije."
utala li kute e toki nasa. taso utala li pana e jan lili tawa lawa.

Jan Mellin li toki e ni: "lawa o, mi toki e tomo seli pakala tawa sina. akesi ko
n tu li lape lon nena anpa. sinpin li wawa e akesi monsi. akesi li tawa sike li
pakala e tomo seli. mi toki ike la sina seli mi."

jan pali pi lawa li pali insa e nena. ona li lukin kama e kiwen suli tu. ona li
pali insa e kiwen li lukin akesi kon. akesi kon ni li walo li suli mute li tawa
kon li mu ike. jan pali li pali insa e kiwen sin li lukin akesi kon sin. akesi k
on ni li loje li suli pi akesi kon sin.

akesi kon tu li lukin e sin. ona li utala li kipisi li seli. utala li tenpo e su
no wan tu. akesi kon loje li kipisi e sike wawa pi akesi kon walo. akesi kon wal
o li moli li tawa anpa li kama e kon seli. akesi kon loje li sewi. jan ala li lu
kin ona.

jan Voltikeln toki e ni tawa jan Mellin :
"sina toki sona e utala ni tawa mi."
jan Mellin li toki e ni:
"akesi kon walo li sina. akesi kon loje li jan Utel Penlakon li mije lili pi law
a moli. tenpo suno wan tu la jan Utel li kama li moli e sina."

jan Voltikeln li monsuta e ni. ona li poki lon tomo ona. taso jan Utel li kama l
i utala seli e tomo. jan Voltikeln li moli. jan Utel li kama e lawa pi ma Plitan
i. jan Mellin li kama e jan sona pi jan Utel.

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Re: akesi kon tu

Postby janKipo » Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:31 pm

This is very good. It moves well and shows several touches of ingenuity. So, though these notes seem to run on a bit, the overall intention is praise and ajust a little lilygilding.

Voltikeln. no v in tp, no consonant clusters in tp, no ti in tp. starting from Vortigern, there are two main paths to the name: spelling and rhythm. Spelling puts in all the letters, buffered by vowels of your choice, so Walisikelen or so with different vowels. The rhythm method just represents each syllable with it main sound, so Wasiken or so. Of course, you can do a bit of each as well. Similarly, Britain comes out Piten and Merlin is just Melin. btw, your name is better Enti, since tp has neither d nor y.

'lawa pi Ike mute' "very evil ruler', not 'lawa ike mute' "many evil rulers"

"He evilly had a head surface of dead heads" I don't get "head surface". I suppose you have dead rulers, so "ruler table"? (but that is Arthur seeping into my thinking)?

'jan ala' for 'jan aka'

'sinpin lili li pakala li kama e kiwen lili' ? maybe, without 'e', "a little wall/ a few walls broke and became little stones". with 'e' I don't get it.

"Construction took a long time". not sure how best to say this, probably with 'lon' but I am not sure. 'e' is pretty surely wrong. The next is definitely, 'tenpo mute la sinpin li pakala' or equivalently 'sinpin li pakala lon tenpo mute'. incidentally, the standard word for building a structure is 'tomo', but that does make for some confusion here.

'sinpin li sewi ken kepeken telo loje pi jan lili. jan lili ni li luka tu li jo ala e mama mije.' This says "The wall is possibly high using children's blood. These children are a group of seven and fatherless" I suppose you mean "A wall this high needs the blood of a child who is seven years old and fatherless." 'sinpin pi sewi sama li wile e telo loje pi jan lili ni. ni li jan pi sike suno luka tu li jo ala e mama mije'

'jan utala lawa', 'pi' needs two words after it.

'toki e ijo pi tomo' "say something about the tower", you can't say the tower. 'lape lon anpa nena' "sleep in the underneath of the hill", i.e. "below the hill" in the tp way. 'wawa e monsi akesi' applies a force to the backs of the dragons". I would say 'e ike' and 'e mi', certainly the latter, since Merlin would definitely be toast.

'jan pali lawa' ('pi' needs two words) 'pali lon insa nena' 'kama lukin' 'pali lon insa kiwen' (maybe 'tawa' for 'lon' in both cases) 'lukin e akesi kon' ditto for the new stone. 'akesi kon ni li suli pi akesi kon sin' But this is the new one and what are you saying about its size. MY best guess is that it is the same size 'suli sama akesi kon nanpa wan' I'm not sure how to say it is bigger or smaller.

Probably 'lukin e sama' "see one another" rather than "see something new". I like 'tenpo e tenpo suno tu wan' for "took three days"; it may be the first use of this idiom, which seems inherently right -- and might have smoothed some earlier passages. e.g., pali li tenpo e tenpo suli' "construction took a long time". (note, in additive numerals, the biggest always comes first, so not 'wan tu') maybe 'kipisi e sike wawa lon akesi' "cut a mighty circle in the dragon", but 'kipisi' might also do for the cut ("slice") and 'tan' for how it affected the dragon. 'kama kon seli' since 'kama' means "become" but is a modal, so takes the compliment immediately, not as a direct object. On the other hand, 'lukin does take a direct object , so 'lukin e ona'

"spoke wisely/knowingly about this battle" 'toki sona e ijo pi utala ni'. as usual about names: Ute Pentakon. 'tu wan'

'monsuta' is a tricky word in that its usage is not clear. As a noun it means something to be feared, but as a verb it seems to be used both for "frighten" and "be afraid of" and I don't know which is dominant. You go with the latter and so so will I. I don't think I have seen 'poki' as a verb before, except to mean "is a box". I think the notion of sealing oneself (or something else) away is clearly there, but might be hard to recover at first (but context helps a lot). To be on the safe side, I might have used 'poki e sama' "boxed himself in". 'utala seli' is compact and nice. no 'e' with 'kama' (twice). I might have said that Vortigern kama moli, since this is sort of a sequence of events, but that is frill. 'Piten'

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Re: akesi kon tu

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Re: akesi kon tu

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Re: akesi kon tu

Postby jan_endy » Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:58 am

toki
jan Kipo li pana e sona pona ona tawa mi. pona.
ni li nimi mute kin pi akesi kon tu.
jan Enki

akesi kon tu

tenpo pini mute la jan Monteken li lawa pi ma Piten. ona li ike mute. ona li kama jo ike e supa monsi lawa pi jan lawa moli.ona li moli e mije lili pi jan lawa moli. taso mije lili sin li moli ala li tawa weka. Jan Monteken li pilin ike tan mije lili ni. ona li wile pali e tomo sewi. tomo ni li suli mute li sewi mute. jan ala li ken utala e tomo ni.

pali li kama lon nena suli. taso sinpin li lili la ni li pakala li kama kiwen lili mute. tenpo mute la sinpin li pali. taso tenpo ali la sinpin li pakala.

jan sona li toki e ni tawa jan Monteken:
"sinpin kepeken ko tomo pi telo loje pi jan lili li ken kama sewi. jan lili ni li sike e suno tenpo luka tu. jan lili ni li jo ala e mama mije."

jan utala pi jan lawa li weka li jo wile e jan lili ni. utala li tawa e ma tomo. jan Melin li kama tawa ona li toki e ni:
"sina wile e mi. mi luka tu. mi jo ala e mama mije."
utala li kute e toki nasa. taso utala li pana e jan lili tawa jan lawa.

Jan Melin li toki e ni: "jan lawa o, mi toki e ijo pi tomo seli pakala. akesi ko
n tu li lape lon anpa nena. sinpin li wawa e monsi akesi. akesi li tawa sike li
pakala e tomo seli. mi toki e ike la sina seli e mi."

jan pali pi jan lawa li pali lon insa nena. ona li kama lukin e kiwen suli tu. ona li pali lon insa kiwen li lukin e akesi kon. akesi kon ni li walo li suli li tawa kon li mu ike. jan pali li pali lon insa kiwen sin li lukin e akesi kon sin. akesi kon ni li loje li suli mute mute.

akesi kon tu li lukin e sama. ona li utala li kipisi li seli. utala li tenpo e tenpo suno tu wan. akesi kon loje li kipisi e insa pi akesi kon walo. akesi kon walo li moli li tawa anpa li kama kon seli. akesi kon loje li sewi. jan ala li lukin e ona.

jan Monteken toki e ni tawa jan Melin :
"sina toki sona e ijo pi utala ni."
jan Melin li toki e ni:
"akesi kon walo li sina. akesi kon loje li jan Uten li mije lili pi law
a moli. tenpo suno tu wan la jan Uten li kama li moli e sina."

jan Monteken li pilin ike tan ni. ona li poki e sama lon tomo ona. taso jan Uten li kama li utala seli e tomo. jan Monteken li kama moli. jan Uten li kama jan lawa pi ma Piten. jan Melin li kama jan sona pi jan Uten.

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