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convention for lipu toki pi pana (letters)

Postby Tomaniki » Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:31 pm


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Re: convention for lipu toki pi pana (letters)

Postby janMato » Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:38 pm

I concur. I used to use "toki!" and "mi tawa" but, online they didn't sound right. In particular, I'm not going anywhere. I'm continuing to sit on my ass in front a glowing screen. So maybe something like:

jan Soso o lukin! So and So, lookie here, I sent you a letter!

and for less informal endings, something like "mi pini" or "ni li ala" I'm done, that's all.

mi pini.

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Re: convention for lipu toki pi pana (letters)

Postby Jan KoAla » Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:26 pm

I've thought about similar things as well.

For me, "toki" seems kind of an odd greeting, but so is "Hello" so that's fine.

However, I've thought that the use of things like "suno pona" or something could work as alternatives too. However, it kind of misses the point of "dear ...." So, maybe something like:

jan X o,
blah blah blah blah

I don't think there needs to be a greeting on the "Dear ..." line.

As for the ending. I've always felt "mi tawa" to be a bit bizarre. In the spirit of toki pona it makes sense for "goodbye" to simply mean "I'm leaving", but it leaves a bad taste in my brain. So, I've started using "lon pona" as a kind of more respectful and nice conterpart to "tawa pona". I think it could work well for letters as well.

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Re: convention for lipu toki pi pana (letters)

Postby Kuti » Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:30 am

«lon pona» li pona
mi pilin e ni:
«lipu ni li pini» anu «toki mi li pini»

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Re: convention for lipu toki pi pana (letters)

Postby Tomaniki » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:05 pm


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Re: convention for lipu toki pi pana (letters)

Postby janMato » Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:31 am


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Re: convention for lipu toki pi pana (letters)

Postby Tomaniki » Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:12 pm


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Re: convention for lipu toki pi pana (letters)

Postby janMato » Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:41 pm

Okay, that makes more sense. Good point, I haven't even noticed that "my name is ..." doesn't really make sense. That what we get for not examining these fossilized conventions. At the top of the page it should say "my name is ..." because that may be in question-- maybe you're a citizen writing a government official, far away.

When we sign a letter in English, we're saying "Matthew has said this" or some equivalent sentiment.

o jan lawa!

mi jan Mato li wile ala pana e mani suli tawa jan lawa. taso mi wile pana e mani lili. ni li pona ala pona tawa sina?

nimi mi li pini,

jan Mato li sitelen e nimi ni.

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Re: convention for lipu toki pi pana (letters)

Postby janSilipu » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:12 am

There is much to be said for the ancient system "Gaius Tullius Cicero to Gaius Julius Caesar , Greetings". . In tp that comes out as something like 'Jan Silipu li pana e ni tawa Jan Mato. Toki'. Paul and others tended to elaborate on both names and on the greeting, but the basic pattern remains. And, of course, could (and would) be abbreviated: 'Jan Silipu tawa Jan Mato, toki'.


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