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apeja

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:06 pm
by aikidave
Looks like we may be getting another new word: apeja - to single out, expose, disgrace, dishonor

http://en.tokipona.org/wiki/Talk:apeja

I'm going to have to start making some new flash cards again.
sin la mi wile sitelen e lipu tawa. a, a, a.

Re: apeja

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:11 pm
by janMato
Interesting, another negative word.

jan utala li tawa tan utala li weka jan pona ona. jan li apeja e kulupu ona.
vs
jan utala li tawa tan utala li weka jan pona ona. jan li pali ike sama ni.

The reverse doesn't automatically seem like "to honor"
mi apeja ala e mama mute mi. I didn't dishonor my parents. (not I honor my parents)

Re: apeja

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:03 pm
by Mako
Perhaps the problem here is that "disgrace" is a negative term generating from the attitude of others, and as such does not fit the self-generating moral compass more typical of TP? Which makes TP sound a bit Nietzschean, oddly enough. How have the concepts of "honor" and "disgrace" been used in previous TP translations? Is there a 'Ten Commandments' somewhere? A pre-apeja translation of 'o apeja ala e mama mije sina en mama meli sina''?

Re: apeja

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:20 am
by janMato

Re: apeja

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:00 pm
by jan-ante

Re: apeja

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:04 pm
by Mako