Another example of significant modifier order

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Another example of significant modifier order

Postby janMato » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:27 am

A noun phrase is made up of a noun plus any number of modifiers in any order. Right or wrong?

AFAIK, toki pona doesn't have a specified order of modifiers, but some word orders seem odd, especially when a common set phrase is split, if single word possessors aren't last, if mute appears early, or if the common modifiers of common set phrases are late (e.g. suli, lili, pona, ike). In general it seems better to put proper modifiers the very last.

The mid point colors seemed to be a case of significant modifier position, but isn't a closed case because jaso loje is parsable as jaso (noun) loje(modifier). This phrase "laso loje" does have a clear order. But "kule laso loje", which doesn't equal "kule loje laso" seems to imply that order of modifiers matter.

http://en.tokipona.org/wiki/Language_names

toki Inli luka Manually Coded English MCE
toki luka Kanse French Sign Language LSF
toki luka Kepeka Quebec Sign Language LSQ
toki luka Mewika American Sign Language ASL

Notice that luka comes last in "toki Inli luka", after the proper modifier (that's unusal) and elsewhere, it comes earlier.

toki Inli luka = Coded English
toki luka Inli = British Sign Language.

So we have a canonical example of where modifier order matters.

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