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toki suli Intenasijonale

Postby jan-ante » Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:28 pm

o kama! jan pali o kama!
o kama tawa utala!
mi pilin sama nena seli
tan ni: jan mani li lon ma.
mi o utala e nasin mani
o sin e jan, o sin e ma.
jan pali kin li kama suli.
ona li jo e pan e ma.

utala ni li pini
la jan ale li lon
ma Intenasijonale
li jo e ma e kon.

o awen ala pona sewi.
o awen ala pona jan.
o kepeken e wawa sona
e sona pi kulupu jan.
mi o pakala e lawa ike
o kama jo e ijo mi.
mi kepeken e wawa seli
tawa jan lawa ike kin.

utala ni li pini
la jan ale li lon
ma Intenasijonale
li jo e ma e kon.

jan pali taso li ken pana
e ijo pona tawa ma.
jan mani li ken moku taso
e ijo pona pi jan ma.
jan li pakala e nasin mani
li moli e jan mani la
jan ale li ken pilin pona
li jo e ijo pona ma.

utala ni li pini
la jan ale li lon
ma Intenasijonale
li jo e ma e kon.

stanza ##1, 2, 6
i have an alternative version for the last 4 lines of last stanza, but not sure which one is better:
tenpo kama la jan mani ale
li anpa moli tawa ma.
ni li lon la jan pali ale
li jo e ijo pona ma

for your references:
sorry, it does not allow me to have more than 4 references, so others were dropped down
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Re: toki suli Intenasijonale

Postby jan Ote » Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:12 pm

jan-ante o a! mi ken kalama musi e ni! a! pona!

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Re: toki suli Intenasijonale

Postby jan-ante » Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:51 pm


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Re: toki suli Intenasijonale

Postby jan Ote » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:36 am

I prefer the second version, because the first says 'jan [...] li moli e jan mani'. In the original version there is no explicit killing... On the other hand, the first version is more clear to me. I do not understand the end of the second verse of the second version
tenpo kama la jan mani ale
li anpa moli tawa ma.

[in the future] all capitalists
will lie dead to the Earth?

Could you please add punctuation to all stanzas?

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Re: toki suli Intenasijonale

Postby jan Ote » Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:07 pm

tenpo suno wan la (lawa/pipi) ike -- pipi? Ekhem...
li weka pakala tan ma.
I cannot understand the verb in the last verse. 'bad rulers will ... from Earth'. What does it mean: 'ona li weka pakala'? Cannot find any sense joining the verb 'to be absent' with a modifier 'pakala'.

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Re: toki suli Intenasijonale

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Re: toki suli Intenasijonale

Postby jan Ote » Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:23 am

pona mute.
I'd like to use your text on my tokiPL website. Would you like to send me your name and home page address, to make a link to? Or would to prefer to stay anonymous?

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Re: toki suli Intenasijonale

Postby jan-ante » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:33 pm

pona mute. taso mi wile e ni: mi tu li awen lon tenpo suno 3-4 li lukin tawa toki suli Intenasijonale li pilin e pona ala pona tawa ona. ni li tawa la sina o kk e to su Internasionale lon lipu sona sina. sina li pilin seme tawa toki tu ni:

1) tenpo suno wan la nasin mani
li pini pakala e ma
ni li lon la suno li pana
e seli pona tawa jan

2)jan li pakala e nasin mani
li anpa e jan mani la
jan ale li ken pilin pona
li jo e ijo pona ma

seme li pona mute?

also one there is an alternative version of referain:
ni li utala pini.
tan ni la jan li lon
ma Intenasijonale.
jan pona sin li lon.
to me, the last line is closer to original (Sera le genre humain) than "li jo e ma e kon". sina li pilin seme?

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