mi jo e soweli lili lon tomo anpa pi tomo mi. mi lukin e ko jaki tan soweli lili. mi weka e ko jaki. soweli lili li jo e pipi lili ike. pipi lili ike li ken pakala e sijelo jan. mi kama jo e moku ike. moku ike li moli e soweli lili. soweli lili li tawa tomo mi seme? mi lukin lupa lili. mi wile moli e soweli lili. tan ni la mi ike ala ike?
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I have a mouse in my cellar. I found mouse droppings. I cleaned up the poop. Mice carry disease. Disease can hurt the human body. I bought some poison. I looked for any small openings where the mouse came in. Am I a bad person because of this: I kill mice?
Dave's writing - mouse in cellar
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pona mute. taso nasin ni li ike. tan li ni: soweli li moli la kon ike li lon. o kepeken e ilo awen tawa ni: sina kama jo e soweli lili.mi jo e soweli lili lon tomo anpa pi tomo mi. mi lukin e ko jaki tan soweli lili. mi weka e ko jaki. soweli lili li jo e pipi lili ike. pipi lili ike li ken pakala e sijelo jan. mi kama jo e moku ike. moku ike li moli e soweli lili.
soweli lili li tawa tomo mi tan seme?soweli lili li tawa tomo mi seme?
mi lukin tawa lupa lilimi lukin lupa lili.
mi wile sona e ni: lupa lili li lon ala lon?
...mi jan ike ala ike?mi wile moli e soweli lili. tan ni la mi ike ala ike?
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tomo ante mi li sin ala mute. soweli lili li moli lon insa sinpin. tenpo mun tu la kon ike li lon. mi ken ala open e sinpin.jan-ante wrote:soweli li moli la kon ike li lon
My other house was very old. A squirrel died inside the wall. There was a bad smell for 2 months. I could not open up the wall to remove the squirrel.
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this raises a good question i cannot really answer at the moment. to me this phrase means: at 2 months there was a bad smell. not for 2 months, although this interpretation is possible. may be one could say:tenpo mun tu la kon ike li lon
kon ike li lon tawa tenpo mun tu
, because tawa has a meaning "until", but i am not sure
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I think it equally means either. And in this context, it is clear that it meant "for two months"... a dead squirrel would not wait 2 months to start smellingjan-ante wrote:to me this phrase means: at 2 months there was a bad smell. not for 2 months, although this interpretation is possible.tenpo mun tu la kon ike li lon
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Re: Dave's writing - mouse in cellar
Context is all, and in this context there is no ambiguity here. However, I wondered whether this was too much of a direct translation of the English (or indeed most languages I know!). In "I have a mouse" the meaning is actually closer to "there is a mouse in my cellar" rather than " I possess" which is the concept that the tp word jo evokes to me. So I would have written "soweli lili li lon tomo anpa pi tomo mi".aikidave wrote:mi jo e soweli lili lon tomo anpa pi tomo mi.
Comments / corrections please - thanks.
I have a mouse in my cellar.
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it depends on climate. in my climate it could. that is why the less context-dependence the betterjan Sowelilili wrote: I think it equally means either. And in this context, it is clear that it meant "for two months"... a dead squirrel would not wait 2 months to start smelling
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Thank you for your comments.
Thanks,
Dave
I forgot to use 'tan' - from where.jan-ante wrote:soweli lili li tawa tomo mi tan seme?
I forgot to use 'tawa' - I am looking for a small hole.jan-ante wrote:mi lukin tawa lupa lili
I like this better to convey the duration of the bad smell.jan-ante wrote:kon ike li lon tawa tenpo mun tu
I don't have a pet mouse, so I shouldn't have said I had one in my basement. I like your suggestion that simply a mouse is in my basement.jan Sowelilili wrote:In "I have a mouse" the meaning is actually closer to "there is a mouse in my cellar" rather than " I possess" which is the concept that the tp word jo evokes to me. So I would have written "soweli lili li lon tomo anpa pi tomo mi".
Thanks,
Dave