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musi lili nanpa wan

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:55 am
by mije Wi
Rules.
selo musi.
1) I give you six series of toki pona names.
mi pana sina e kulupu nimi.
2) You can put as mani "pi"s between them as you want.
sina ken pana ona e nimi Pi mute tan wile sina.
3) You translate them in the way one would expect the less.
sina ante tawa toki Inli e ona li wile namako e kulupu toki.

Have fun!

kulupu pona
akesi ala

kulupu lili
alasa ale anpa

kulupu suli
ante awen esun ijo

kulupu ike
ike ilo insa jaki jan

kulupu nasa
jelo jo kala kalama kama kasi ken kepeken kili kipisi

sina li ante e ni la sina suli kin a!

Re: musi lili nanpa wan

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:30 am
by janMato
akesi ala = soweli, or de-monsterification. No space for pi.

alasa ale anpa = bottom all hunt. Vacuuming up all the fish on the sea floor?
alasa pi ale anpa = universal-bottom hunt. A package travel to Australia to hunt each soweli and akesi?

ante awen esun ijo = thingy - mercantile - permanent difference. Long term changes in retail inventory.
ante pi awen esun ijo = difference of thingy -retail - permanence. Year over last changes in retail inventory.
ante awen pi esun ijo = permenant difference of thingy-store. Retail conversion. (e.g. converting a retail store to a gas station)

ike ilo insa jaki jan = human filthy inner instrumental evil. Handy guts. Maybe the sort that a zombie might fling at you if a zombie was in a zoo and you were mocking him.
ike pi ilo insa jaki jan = human filthy inner tools of evil. Handy guts.
ike ilo pi insa jaki jan = useful evil-stuff of human, filthy insides. Handy guts.
ike ilo pi insa pi jaki jan = ?? I don't grok double "pi" phrases.

jelo jo kala kalama kama kasi ken kepeken kili kipisi =
This is a yellow color.
It is a foundational, fruity, useful, very, vegetative, progressive, noisy, fishy, possessable color.

Oh my. No matter where you put the "pi", it seems to still be a color. I will have to defer to someone with synesthesia to explain it.

Function words in noun-phrases. The usage of primarily "function" words in word phrases makes it much harder to guess what the meaning could be. "Function" words with "content" polysemy are just as bad because there are two radically different ways of parsing (pi phrase or prepositional phrase).
In particular: kepeken, insa, anpa (prepositions and semi-prepositions)
jo, kama (vergs and auxiliary verbs)

Re: musi lili nanpa wan

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:55 pm
by janKipo
mije Wi wrote:Rules.
selo musi.
1) I give you six series of toki pona names.
mi pana sina e kulupu nimi.

mi pana e kulupu nimi tawa sina
2) You can put as many "pi"s between them as you want.
sina ken pana ona e nimi Pi mute tan wile sina.

sina ken pana e nimi 'Pi' mute tawa ona ...' "as many as" is a real problem; I suppose it involves 'sama' somewhere, but I don't know how to put it together. It probably (like comparatives and superlatives, takes two sentences.
3) You translate them in the way one would expect the less.
sina ante tawa toki Inli e ona li wile namako e kulupu toki.

Prep phrase goes last: 'e ona tawa...'

Re: musi lili nanpa wan

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:57 am
by mije Wi
Oh, thank you, I still have to get used.

The kulupu nasa is maybe ruined by the word jelo at the beginning. I will care to avoid the words kepeken, insa, anpa, jo and kama. Thank you Mato!