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François SCHWICKER

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jan Opama li toki e ni : mi jan lawa la mi pini e tomo awen"Guantanamo". tenpo kama lili la jan ali li ken lukin e ni : jan Opamali toki e lon, anu ala.jan Kanso
jean-luc DESTREE

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ni li lon. kama la jan ali li lukin e ni : Jan Opama li ken pali e ijo suli pitoki lawa onajan JanlukaTo: tokipona@yahoogroups.comFrom: bubi4919@yahoo.comDate: Mon, 10 Nov 200809:10:52 +0000Subject: [tokipona] Re: jan lawa sin pi ma Mewikajan Opama li toki e ni : mi jan lawa la mi pini e tomo awen"Guantanamo". tenpokama lili la jan ali li ken lukin e ni : jan Opamali toki e lon, anu ala.janKanso_________________________________________________________________Inédit ! Des Emoticônes Déjantées! Installez les dans votre Messenger !http://www.ilovemessenger.fr/Emoticones ... ntees.aspx[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
galactonerd

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selo pimeja pi ma Mewika li seme? ;) mi sona ala e jan Opama la, miante e ni tawa toki Inli sama ni: "the black border of America." mi joe ni lon lawa mi: telo wawa jaki pimeja li lon ma telo pi ma Mewika.mi toki ala e ni: "A pi B pi C," tan ni.selo pi jan Opama li pimeja ala. selo ona li kule pi kasi palisa("brown"). mama meli ona li jo e selo walo loje. mi toki e kule selojan la, mi toki e ni: "jan pimeja" en "jan walo." toki mute li pali eni.jan mute lon ma Mewika li sona ala e ni: tawa jan Apika la, jan Opamali walo.jan Sosuwa--- In tokipona@yahoogroups.com, François SCHWICKER <bubi4919@...>wrote:>> kulupu jan pi ma Mewika li toki e ni : jan Opama li jan lawa sin pima> Mewika.> jan mute li toki e ni : kama ni li pona mute tan ni : jan Opama lijan> lawa pi nanpa wan pi selo pimeja pi ma Mewika.> mi pilin e ni : kama ni li pona mute tan ni : jan Opama li sona li> pona li wile ala e utala.>> jan Kanso>
Francois Schwicker

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--- On Fri, 11/14/08, galactonerd <galactonerd@yahoo.com> wrote:From: galactonerd <galactonerd@yahoo.com>Subject: [tokipona] Re: jan lawa sin pi ma MewikaTo: tokipona@yahoogroups.comDate: Friday, November 14, 2008, 8:24 PM selo pimeja pi ma Mewika li seme? ;) mi sona ala e jan Opama la, miante e ni tawa toki Inli sama ni: "the black border of America." mi joe ni lon lawa mi: telo wawa jaki pimeja li lon ma telo pi ma Mewika.mi toki ala e ni: "A pi B pi C," tan ni.pimeja : means not only black, but dark, too.selo : does not mean "border".A piB pi C : o kute e ni lon toki Kanse : "Le procureur de la république deStrasbourg". mi sona e ni : "(le procureur de la république) (de Strasbourg)".tan li ni : tenpo pini mute la ma pi nimi  "République de Strasbourg"  lipakala  li moli.jan li kepeken pona e lawa ona la jan li ken sona pona e kulupunimi "A pi B  pi  C "jan Kanso[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
galactonerd

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--- In tokipona@yahoogroups.com, Francois Schwicker <bubi4919@...>wrote:> pimeja : means not only black, but dark, too.selo : does notmean "border".No, but "selo ma" would, and so would "selo pi ma Mewika."And I'm not sure what constitutes "dark" in TP, but Obama is relativelylight-skinned among black people, because he's half-white...A pi B pi C : o kute e ni lon toki Kanse : "Le procureur de larépublique de Strasbourg". mi sona e ni : "(le procureur de larépublique) (de Strasbourg)". tan li ni : tenpo pini mute la ma pinimi  "République de Strasbourg"  li pakala  li moli.jan li kepekenpona e lawa ona la jan li ken sona pona e kulupu nimi "A pi B  pi  C "> jan Kansomi toki e ni: "tomo sona pi meli lili pi pona lukin" la, seme li ponalukin? tomo sona anu meli lili?tomo li pona lukin la, seme li "tomo sona pi (meli lili pi pona lukin)?"jan Sosuwa
Francois Schwicker

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--- On Sun, 11/16/08, galactonerd <galactonerd@yahoo.com> wrote:From: galactonerd <galactonerd@yahoo.com>Subject: [tokipona] Re: jan lawa sin pi ma MewikaTo: tokipona@yahoogroups.comDate: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 7:53 PMmi toki e ni: "tomo sona pi meli lili pi pona lukin" la, seme li ponalukin? tomo sona anu meli lili?Depending of the context, of course. In English, such ambiguity often occurs,and native speakers do not even notice it, unless a foreigner asks.See : "World food conference", e. g. , is it in French : "Conférence mondialesur la nourriture" or "Conférence sur la nourriture dans le monde" ?If you wantto learn a language with as few as possible ambiguity, I recommend you to learnEsperanto rather than Toki Pona.jan Kanso Recent Activity  1 New Members Visit Your Group Yahoo! GroupsCat ZoneConnect w/ otherswho love cats. 10 Day Clubon Yahoo! GroupsShare the benefitsof a high fiber diet. Yahoo! GroupsSpecial K ChallengeJoin others whoare losing pounds. .[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
galactonerd

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--- In tokipona@yahoogroups.com, Francois Schwicker <bubi4919@...>wrote:>> --- On Sun, 11/16/08, galactonerd <galactonerd@...> wrote:> From: galactonerd <galactonerd@...>> Subject: [tokipona] Re: jan lawa sin pi ma Mewika> To: tokipona@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 7:53 PM> mi toki e ni: "tomo sona pi meli lili pi pona lukin" la, seme lipona lukin? tomo sona anu meli lili?>> Depending of the context, of course. In English, such ambiguityoften occurs, and native speakers do not even notice it, unless aforeigner asks.> See : "World food conference", e. g. , is it inFrench : "Conférence mondiale sur la nourriture" or "Conférence surla nourriture dans le monde" ?If you want to learn a language with asfew as possible ambiguity, I recommend you to learn Esperanto ratherthan Toki Pona.Couldn't we just split up the sentences? For example, insteadof "jan Opama li jan lawa pi nanpa wan pi selo pimeja pi ma Mewika,"couldn't we say, "jan Opama li jan lawa pi ma Mewika. ona li jo eselo pimeja. tenpo pini la, jan lawa ale pi ma Mewika li jo e selowalo." Or maybe "jan Opama li jan lawa ni pi nanpa wan: ona li jo eselo pimeja li lawa e ma Mewika."The reason we use "pi" is because derivational syntax is regularizedin its absence:tomo telo nasa = crazy restroomtomo pi telo nasa = barWe could say A pi B pi C = (A pi B) pi C by analogy to this, but thenhow would we say A pi (B pi C)?jan Sosuwa
François SCHWICKER

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--- In tokipona@yahoogroups.com, "galactonerd" <galactonerd@...> wrote:.>> Couldn't we just split up the sentences? For example, instead> of "jan Opama li jan lawa pi nanpa wan pi selo pimeja pi ma Mewika,"> couldn't we say, "jan Opama li jan lawa pi ma Mewika. ona li jo e> selo pimeja. tenpo pini la, jan lawa ale pi ma Mewika li jo e selo> walo." Or maybe "jan Opama li jan lawa ni pi nanpa wan: ona li jo e> selo pimeja li lawa e ma Mewika.">> jan Sosuwatoki sina li pona mute tawa mi. kulupu nimi "jan lawa pi nanpa wan piselo pimeja pi ma Mewika" li suli li pona ala.jan Kanso
jean-luc DESTREE

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jan Sosuwa en jan Kanso o !tenpo ali ni , toki sina li pona mute (tawa mi)il y a une tournure pour signifier à peu près le sens de "presque/almost" en TP,mais je ne m'en souviens plus/I forgot itsina li sona ala sona e toki ni ?jan JanlukaTo: tokipona@yahoogroups.comFrom: bubi4919@yahoo.comDate: Mon, 17 Nov 200809:57:32 +0000Subject: [tokipona] Re: jan lawa sin pi ma Mewika--- In tokipona@yahoogroups.com, "galactonerd" <galactonerd@...> wrote:.> >Couldn't we just split up the sentences? For example, instead > of "jan Opama lijan lawa pi nanpa wan pi selo pimeja pi ma Mewika," > couldn't we say, "janOpama li jan lawa pi ma Mewika. ona li jo e > selo pimeja. tenpo pini la, janlawa ale pi ma Mewika li jo e selo > walo." Or maybe "jan Opama li jan lawa nipi nanpa wan: ona li jo e > selo pimeja li lawa e ma Mewika."> > jan Sosuwatokisina li pona mute tawa mi. kulupu nimi "jan lawa pi nanpa wan pi selo pimeja pima Mewika" li suli li pona ala.jan Kanso_________________________________________________________________Email envoyé avec Windows Live Hotmail. Dites adieux aux spam et virus, passez àHotmail ! C'est gratuit !http://www.windowslive.fr/hotmail/default.asp[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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