ante mute

[Jim Henry]

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Pierre Morin<pierre_morin2001@videotron.ca> wrote:> tan pi toki mi li lon e ni: tempo pali pi toki pona la,> nampa wan la, jan Sonja li pali e nimi pi pona kute;> ona li pali ala lili e nimi ali.> ona li musi mute. pona!> taso, toki pona li lon ala e musi la, nimi ali li wile lili!> mi sona e ni.> taso, mi sona li lili.> sina sona ala sona e pilin mi?mi pilin e ni: toki pona li toki musi. ona li toki pali ala.sina wile e toki pali la, o kama sona e toki Epelantoanu toki Losupan anu toki ante. ken la sina ken pali etoki sin.taso jan li ken kin kepeken e toki pona li ken toki pokajan pi ma ante. ni li pona. o pakala ala e ona.sina ken lukin e toki Inli la, sina wile pali e toki sin la,o lukin e ni:http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/conlang/redundancy.htmmi pilin e ni: nimi lili ken sina li sama mute. toki pi ponakepeken la, nimi li wile ante mute.--Jim Henryhttp://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/

[AJK]

a bit more complete... li pi ... (1+)pi ... (1+) en ... (1+)pi ... (2+)yes, in this case pi is definitely incorrectly placed2008/9/10 Helmut Voigt <akesi_palisa@yahoo.de>:> pi should be followed by at least two words.> jan Elumutu>> --- Alex <abaudry@hotmail.com> schrieb am Do, 4.9.2008:>> Von: Alex <abaudry@hotmail.com>> Betreff: [tokipona] Re: ante mute> An: tokipona@yahoogroups.com> Datum: Donnerstag, 4. September 2008, 13:37>>> jan pile,>> toki ni li pona, taso, toki ni li sama ala e toki pona. toki ni li> ante.>> o nimi e ni: toki pona pi lili>> ,>> --- In tokipona@yahoogroup s.com, Pierre Morin <pierre_morin2001@ ...>> wrote:>>>>>> >mi sona ala e pilin sina. tan seme la sina toki e ni:>> >jan Sonja li wile musi?>>>> >-->> >Jim Henry>>>> tan pi toki mi li lon e ni: tempo pali pi toki pona la,>> nampa wan la, jan Sonja li pali e nimi pi pona kute;>> ona li pali ala lili e nimi ali.>> ona li musi mute. pona!>> taso, toki pona li lon ala e musi la, nimi ali li wile lili!>> mi sona e ni.>> taso, mi sona li lili.>> sina sona ala sona e pilin mi?>> jan Pile>>>>> __________________________________________________> Do You Yahoo!?> Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz> gegen Massenmails.> http://mail.yahoo.com--http://espe.rant ... t.eu/78c6e

[Pierre Morin]

jan AJK o, toki!mi sona ala e ni: ... li pi ... (1+)sina wile ala wile pana e toki sona tawa mi?jan Pile

[AJK]

http://bknight0.myweb.uga.edu/toki/lesson/lesson11.html li toki e ni:Another usepi has one other use. I have decided to describe this use in aseparate section because it somewhat breaks the rules that you learnedabove. Consider the following sentences: kili ni li pi mi. -- This fruit is mine. tomo ni li pi jan Tami. -- That house is Tommy's.Although it may look a little odd, a pi phrase can be used after li totell who owns something. Here are some more examples if you need tolook at them: ilo ni li pi sina. -- This tool is yours. ma ni li pi jan Tosi. -- This land is the Germans'. toki ni li pi mi mute. -- This language is ours.2008/9/10 Pierre Morin <pierre_morin2001@videotron.ca>:> jan AJK o, toki!> mi sona ala e ni: ... li pi ... (1+)> sina wile ala wile pana e toki sona tawa mi?> jan Pile>>> ------------------------------------>> Yahoo! Groups Links>>>>--http://espe.ranto.nlhttp://lost.eu/78c6e

[Helmut Voigt]

ali o, toki!I'm not very happy with this additional use of pi (followed by one word only). IMHO it would be better to extend the meaning of "mi, sina, ona" to include the possessive: tomo tawa ni li mi = This is my car. I'm sure that nobody would understand it as "This car is me" because this doesn't make any sense.jan Elumutu--- AJK <ikojba@gmail.com> schrieb am Mi, 10.9.2008:Von: AJK <ikojba@gmail.com>Betreff: Re: [tokipona] Re: ante muteAn: tokipona@yahoogroups.comDatum: Mittwoch, 10. September 2008, 19:23http://bknight0. myweb.uga. edu/toki/ lesson/lesson11. html li toki e ni:Another usepi has one other use. I have decided to describe this use in aseparate section because it somewhat breaks the rules that you learnedabove. Consider the following sentences:kili ni li pi mi. -- This fruit is mine.tomo ni li pi jan Tami. -- That house is Tommy's.Although it may look a little odd, a pi phrase can be used after li totell who owns something. Here are some more examples if you need tolook at them:ilo ni li pi sina. -- This tool is yours.ma ni li pi jan Tosi. -- This land is the Germans'.toki ni li pi mi mute. -- This language is ours.2008/9/10 Pierre Morin <pierre_morin2001@ videotron. ca>:> jan AJK o,toki!> mi sona ala e ni: ... li pi ... (1+)> sina wile ala wile pana e toki sona tawa mi?> jan Pile>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>> Yahoo! Groups Links>>>>-- http://espe. ranto.nlhttp://lost. eu/78c6e__________________________________________________Do You Yahoo!?Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com

[Jim Henry]

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:44 AM, Helmut Voigt <akesi_palisa@yahoo.de> wrote:> I'm not very happy with this additional use of pi (followed by one word> only). IMHO it would be better to extend the meaning of "mi, sina, ona" to> include the possessive: tomo tawa ni li mi = This is my car. I'm sure that> nobody would understand it as "This car is me" because this doesn't make any> sense.pilin sina li pona tawa mi.`anu: "tomo tawa ni li lon mi", anu "tomo tawa ni li tan mi" ....?--Jim Henryhttp://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/conlang/fluency ... tmlConlang fluency survey -- there's still time to participate beforeI analyze the results and write the article

[galactonerd]

sina ken ante e nimi ni, taso ni li toki pona ala. ni li toki ante.mi pali e toki sin kepeken nimi pi toki pona, tan ni: mi wile sona eni: jan li toki e toki pona la, ni li seme lon tenpo kama mute mute?jan Sosuwa--- In tokipona@yahoogroups.com, Pierre Morin <pierre_morin2001@...>wrote:>> toki!> mi wile ante e sitelen mute ni :> akesi --> aki> kalama --> lama> kepeken --> kepen> kulupu --> kupu> pakala --> paka> poka --> puka> palisa --> pasa> pimeja --> pija> sijelo --> sijo> sitelen --> siten> soweli --> woli> utala --> tula>> ni pona ala pona?>> Pierre Morin>

[narfee]

ni li tomo tawa mi. This is my car.ni li kili sina. This is your fruit.ni li toki pi jan Sonja. This is Sonja's language.toki pona li toki PONA (as in simple).

[Francois Schwicker]

Mi dubas : ma tomo Paki li lon ma Kanse = La urbo Parizo estas en Francio = Paris is in France. do : tomo tawa ni li lon mi = Tio veturilo estas en mi = this car is in me. (?!) Kial ne : "ni li tomo tawa mi."     aux :  "mi jo e tomo tawa ni." ?  Kial vi volas traduki anstataux reskribi laux la spirito de tokipono ?Why do you try to translate rather than recreate the meaning with the means of toki pona ? jan Kanso--- On Thu, 9/11/08, Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@gmail.com> wrote:From: Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@gmail.com>Subject: Re: [tokipona] Re: ante muteTo: tokipona@yahoogroups.comDate: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 4:36 PMOn Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:44 AM, Helmut Voigt <akesi_palisa@ yahoo.de> wrote:> I'm not very happy with this additional use of pi (followed by one word> only). IMHO it would be better to extend the meaning of "mi, sina, ona" to> include the possessive: tomo tawa ni li mi = This is my car. I'm sure that> nobody would understand it as "This car is me" because this doesn't make any> sense.pilin sina li pona tawa mi.`anu: "tomo tawa ni li lon mi",anu "tomo tawa ni li tan mi" ....?-- Jim Henryhttp://www.pobox. com/~jimhenry/ conlang/fluency- survey.htmlConlang fluency survey -- there's still time to participate beforeI analyze the results and write thearticle

[Jim Henry]

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Francois Schwicker <bubi4919@yahoo.com> wrote:> tomo tawa ni li lon mi = Tio veturilo estas en mi = this car is in me. (?!)aux "cxe mi"...>> Kial ne :>> "ni li tomo tawa mi." aux : "mi jo e tomo tawa ni." ?pona a.> Kial vi volas traduki anstataux reskribi laux la spirito de tokipono ?o pilin ike ala. mi wile taso e ni: mi pali e toki mute.jan mute li lukin e ona. jan mute li toki e ni:toki mi li pona ala pona?lukin la, jan mute li pilin e ni: "<ijo> li mi" li ike. "<ijo> li lon mi" li ike. "mi jo e <ijo>" li pona mute."<ijo> li mi" li pona lili.mi toki lon ala lon?--Jim Henryhttp://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/