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Rodrigo PORTELA SÁNCHEZ

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"jan" pi lon ante li lon pilin jan li pali ike tawa jan ike lon tenpomoli ona, la "jan" ni li ken anpa kin! :-)jan Loliko(o pona e toki mi)2007/9/1, Rick Miller <rdmiller3@gmail.com>:>> On 9/1/07, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com <MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com> wrote:> > In a message dated 8/31/2007 7:18:20 PM Central Daylight Time,clifford-j@sbcglobal.net writes:> > > 'god" is "jan sewi"> >> > Or "ijo nasa", depending on your beliefs.> >> > jan Setepo / stevo>> a a a a! pona mute!> jan sewi li pona ala.
Rodrigo PORTELA SÁNCHEZ

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2007/9/1, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com <MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com>:> mi sona ala e toki ona. o toki e toki ona kepeken nimi ante.jan sewi li lon, la jan anpa li lon kin. jan anpa li lon lawa pi janmute li pana e ike tawa jan lon tenpo pi moli ona.tenpo ni la sina ken ala ken sona e toki mi? mi sitelen, la mi sona eni: pakala mute lili li ken lon. taso mi pilin ala e ni: pakala muteli lon li kama e sitelen ike mute.jan Loliko
John E Clifford

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--- Rodrigo PORTELA SÁNCHEZ <philoglot@gmail.com> wrote:> "jan" pi lon ante li lon pilin jan li pali ike tawa jan ike lon tenpo> moli ona, la "jan" ni li ken anpa kin! :-)? If a 'person' of a different sort (in a different place) is in people'sthoughts does badly tobad people at the time of their death, then this 'person' can be down (probablytransitive: "candefeat [us]")Close?> jan Loliko> (o pona e toki mi)>> 2007/9/1, Rick Miller <rdmiller3@gmail.com>:> >> > On 9/1/07, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com <MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com>wrote:> > > In a message dated 8/31/2007 7:18:20 PM Central Daylight Time,> clifford-j@sbcglobal.net writes:> > > > 'god" is "jan sewi"> > >> > > Or "ijo nasa", depending on your beliefs.> > >> > > jan Setepo / stevo> >> > a a a a! pona mute!> > jan sewi li pona ala.>
John E Clifford

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--- Rodrigo PORTELA SÁNCHEZ <philoglot@gmail.com> wrote:> 2007/9/1, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com <MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com>:>> > mi sona ala e toki ona. o toki e toki ona kepeken nimi ante.>> jan sewi li lon, la jan anpa li lon kin. jan anpa li lon lawa pi jan> mute li pana e ike tawa jan lon tenpo pi moli ona.I weould put the commas after the "la" (or not use them). If the high person(god) exists, thenthe low person (Devil?) exists, too. The low person is in the heads of manypeople and gives badthings at the time of their death (the people in whose head he is).> tenpo ni la sina ken ala ken sona e toki mi? mi sitelen, la mi sona e> ni: pakala mute lili li ken lon. taso mi pilin ala e ni: pakala mute> li lon li kama e sitelen ike mute.>How/why does difficulties cause bad writing?> jan Loliko>
Francois Schwicker

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> philoglot@gmail.com writes:>>> > jan sewi li lon, la jan anpa li lon kin. jan anpa> li lon lawa pi jan> > mute li pana e ike tawa jan lon tenpo pi moli ona.> >> > jan Lolikomi pilin e ni : jan sewi en jan anpa li lon ala. ikeli kama tan lawa jan.jan ali pi ma ali o, weka e ike tan lawa sina !jan Kanso________________________________________________________________________________\____Got a little couch potato?Check out fun summer activities for kids.http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_o ... kids&cs=bz
Pierre Morin

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>mi pilin e ni : jan sewi en jan anpa li lon ala. ike>li kama tan lawa jan.>jan ali pi ma ali o, weka e ike tan lawa sina !>jan KansoMi pilin e sama.Peto Kepeka
Rodrigo PORTELA SÁNCHEZ

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2007/9/1, John E Clifford <clifford-j@sbcglobal.net>:(Quoting this from me:> > "jan" pi lon ante li lon pilin jan li pali ike tawa jan ike lon tenpo> > moli ona, la "jan" ni li ken anpa kin! :-))> ? If a 'person' of a different sort (in a different place) is in people'sthoughts does badly to> bad people at the time of their death, then this 'person' can be down (probably transitive:> "can defeat [us]")>> Close?I tried to express something like "if a different being / a being of adifferent reality/life"... I tried to express the idea of a god orsome kind of similar... spirit without using "jan sewi", as I wasgoing to apply it to a "jan anpa", but that's the closest I got. :-$So what I was trying to say is that, if we consider a different kindof god, like those who are believed to live somewhere undergroundpunishing the souls of bad people after their death in some religions,those gods can't be called "jan sewi", unless "sewi" is used in ametaphorical sense, so to say, or maybe not even that way. At the endI tried to say that they can also be "anpa", be "down (people)" (notransitive use intended).taso mi sona e ni: sona mi pi toki pona li pona lili li ken kama ponamute. toki pi "jan pona" en "jan anpa" li pona lon kama sona li kama eni: jan li wile kama jo e kulupu nimi ante e nasin toki ante lon toki"sewi" (??) ni. :-)jan Loliko
Rodrigo PORTELA SÁNCHEZ

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2007/9/1, John E Clifford <clifford-j@sbcglobal.net>:>> I weould put the commas after the "la" (or not use them).So did I, until I saw those commas used BEFORE in the official TP website. :-)I remember I started reading out and forming the la-structures with apause before "la" and a little one afterwards, just like saying "<x>,then(,) <x>", "I do this, then something happens"... so notunderstanding the "la" as a closing particle for the precedingstructure, but either introducing the following one or just laying inthe middle, until I somewhere read it closes the previous structureand I even saw the comma AFTER the word "la", so I changed the way Iread it. And now I realise the comma is used before "la" in thereference website...> > tenpo ni la sina ken ala ken sona e toki mi? mi sitelen, la mi sona e> > ni: pakala mute lili li ken lon. taso mi pilin ala e ni: pakala mute> > li lon li kama e sitelen ike mute.> >> How/why does difficulties cause bad writing?I tried to say something like "the errors make the text quite bad" or"produce a quite bad text/writing".
Rodrigo PORTELA SÁNCHEZ

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2007/9/1, Francois Schwicker <bubi4919@yahoo.com>:>> mi pilin e ni : jan sewi en jan anpa li lon ala. ike> li kama tan lawa jan.pona pi lon jan li kama kin tan lawa jan. mi pilin e ni: tan pi alijan li jan. taso ni li kama: ike li kama tawa jan, la ike pi tan anteli pona tawa ona. jan li lukin e pona suli suli li ken ala sona e tanona, la jan mute li pilin e ni: mi mute li lili lili li ken ala kama eona. tan ni, la lon ante pi ken suli suli anu "jan sewi" li kama eona.jan li sitelen e ni: o kama sona e sina kin. mi pilin e sama. tenponanpa wan, la jan li wile sona e ona. tan ni, la jan li ken sona e ijoante.taso toki suli ni pi ali lon li mute kin. mi pini li tawa.Enough philosophy for the moment, I'd better stop.:-)jan Loliko
Pierre Morin

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toki!lon anpa oko mi la (lukin la) (nasin la), toki suli li nasa lili li musi. lon la, ona li toki ala e lon lon li toki ijo (nasin)  pi lawa jan.Peto Kepeka.
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