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New poll for tokipona

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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for thetokipona group:"iki" seems to be too long and/or toosimilar to "ike". Should it be changedto something else? o Leave it as is. (iki li suli mute. mi olin e iki.) o Drop "iki" when it's the subject and is understood. (li suli mute. mi olin eiki.) o Change to "i". (i li suli mute. mi olin e i.) o Other solution...To vote, please visit the following web page:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tokipona/pollsNote: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes arenot collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groupsweb site listed above.Thanks!
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New poll for tokipona

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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for thetokipona group:How would you feel if "noka" (foot,leg) was changed to "jalan"? o I like "jalan". o Let's keep "noka".To vote, please visit the following web page:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tokipona/pollsNote: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes arenot collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groupsweb site listed above.Thanks!
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New poll for tokipona

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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for thetokipona group:What is the best way to say "stone,rock, metal, mineral" in Toki Pona? o compound "wawa ma" (hardness of the earth) o create new word "kiwen"To vote, please visit the following web page:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tokipona/ ... 654693Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes arenot collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groupsweb site listed above.Thanks!
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New poll for tokipona

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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for thetokipona group:Some Toki Pona speakers have expressedconcerns that "iki" (he/she/it)and "ike" (bad/evil) are too similarand may cause confusion. The result ofa previous poll suggested we find a newsolution. What do you suggest?(Sample sentences: iki li ike. mi oline iki. = He is evil. I love him.) o don't change anything. keep "iki". everything is fine. (iki li ike. mi oline iki.) o change "iki" to "ipi" (ipi li ike. mi olin e ipi.) o change "iki" to "ona" (ona li ike. mi olin e ona.) o none of the above are acceptable. let's find other solutions.To vote, please visit the following web page:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tokipona/ ... 657735Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes arenot collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groupsweb site listed above.Thanks!
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New poll for tokipona

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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for thetokipona group:Describe your interest in the Toki Ponalanguage. o I am interested in the language itself, but my goal is not to learn to speakor write in it. o I want to learn Toki Pona, but I am still a beginner. o I am learning Toki Pona, and I can express myself or understand texts at anintermediate level. o I'm fluent. I can carry entire conversations in Toki Pona with little or fewerrors. o I am actually more interested in the philosophy and ideology of Toki Ponathan learning the language itself. o I am not actively interested in being a part of Toki Pona. I'm just curiousto see how Toki Pona develops.To vote, please visit the following web page:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tokipona/ ... 784125Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes arenot collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groupsweb site listed above.Thanks!
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New poll for tokipona

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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for thetokipona group:What do you think about reforming TokiPona from a 5 vowel system to a 3 vowelsystem? o The language already works. Let's keep the 5 vowels. Having 5 vowels insteadof 3 also gives the language a bit more colour and different sounds. o Let's find a way to convert the language into a more simple 3-vowel system.This may drastically change many words, but in the long run, the language willbecome simpler. o UndecidedTo vote, please visit the following web page:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tokipona/ ... 935084Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes arenot collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groupsweb site listed above.Thanks!
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New poll for tokipona

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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for thetokipona group:What do you think of the proposed newway of using "en" and "kin", describedinhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/tokipona/message/209? o Yes, that is a smart solution. o I really don't like it.To vote, please visit the following web page:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tokipona/ ... 950692Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes arenot collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groupsweb site listed above.Thanks!
bacchus13579

Re: New poll for tokipona

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I wish you would've put an "undecided" choice on the poll. I'm ratherconservative, and if there are possible changes, I like to haveplenty of time to think about them. If I judge early, I always findthat several weeks later I've changed my mind, and that's the way mymind stays.I like the proposal in general, even though I wish we didn't have tochange things. The one thing I particularly don't like is the removalof "kan". As Marraskuu showed, it is quite possible to get along finewithout it, but, like I said, I'm quite conservative, and once I'vehad a word, I don't want to give it up, at least not until I've hadtime to adjust smoothly. "mi en/kin sina..." in a good deal of casesseems more rigid and artificial than the more friendly "mi ... kansina."As far as en and kin go, the change is a good idea, and I think itwould help clear up some confusion. The only objection I really haveis that I don't like the word "en." It seems like a very confused andawkward word to me. Maybe it's because it's so short or something;I'm not really sure. I'd prefer to see "kin" keep its status as "and"and have "en" become the word that intensifies whatever follows;perhaps that's just wishful thinking.I disagree with the idea of removing advanced numbers. Although Iagree that it can be and probably has been abused, I think the needfor higher numbers outweighs the bad usage. Imagine a boy playing anumber-guessing game:Man: "Hey kid, pick a number between wan and mute."Boy: "Okay! I pick ... umm... mute!"Man: "Nope. Sorry, kiddo. The number I had in mind was 'mute,'not 'mute'. Better luck next time."Anyhow, gotta go.-- Pije
yerricde

Re: New poll for tokipona

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--- In tokipona@y..., "bacchus13579" <kurum3@a...> wrote:> I wish you would've put an "undecided" choice on the poll.> I'm rather conservativeA Limbaugh fan?> The one thing I particularly don't like is the removal of> "kan" ... once I've had a word, I don't want to give it upThen what about the 499,880 words that are in En but not in TP?> at least not until I've had time to adjust smoothly.Which is why <iki> was deprecated in favor of <ona> but stillretained for a while.> The only objection I really have is that I don't like the word> "en." It seems like a very confused and awkward word to me.Tell that to a speaker of Dutch.> Maybe it's because it's so short or something; I'm not really sure.You would find Spanish even worse: "and" is <y>.--Damian
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New poll for tokipona

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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for thetokipona group:"ala" (nothing) and "ale" (everything)are very similar in sound. Is this aproblem? o Everything is fine. Don't change anything. o We really need to consider changing something to avoid the confusion these 2words can cause.To vote, please visit the following web page:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tokipona/ ... 950987Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes arenot collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groupsweb site listed above.Thanks!
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