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Re: nasin toki pi toki pona

Postby jan_Lope » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:14 pm

lon monsi pi nimi ilo la sitelen ":" li lon.
* mi lukin e:sina. (I see you.)
* mi en:sina li:sona e:ona. (You and I know her.)


jan Tepan, o toki!

It is not clear to me what is your aim. Do you like to change Toki Pona or is it an other version of tp++
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2495 ?
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Re: nasin toki pi toki pona

Postby janTepanNetaPelin » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:01 pm

jan_Lope wrote:lon monsi pi nimi ilo la sitelen ":" li lon.

* mi lukin e:sina. (I see you.)
* mi en:sina li:sona e:ona. (You and I know her.)


jan Tepan, o toki!

It is not clear to me what is your aim. Do you like to change Toki Pona or is it an other version of tp++
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2495 ?[/quote]

jan Lope o,

I try to apply a mark-up for Toki Pona as described in the official book. It's for analysing purposes only. I don't want to change the language. In normal Toki Pona I wouldn't use any of this mark-up. :)
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Re: nasin toki pi toki pona

Postby jan_Lope » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:16 pm

janTepanNetaPelin wrote:I try to apply a mark-up for Toki Pona as described in the official book. It's for analysing purposes only.

Similar to tp++ of jan Mato?
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Re: nasin toki pi toki pona

Postby janTepanNetaPelin » Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:32 am

jan_Lope wrote:
janTepanNetaPelin wrote:I try to apply a mark-up for Toki Pona as described in the official book. It's for analysing purposes only.

Similar to tp++ of jan Mato?


I'm not too familiar with Mato's tp++. But if you replace ":", ".", "-", "=" with white spaces, then you get normal Toki Pona.

I'm considering removing ":" even from example sentences. (I use ":" denote a particle.) The good thing about particles is that they always behave in a predictable way.
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Re: nasin toki pi toki pona

Postby jan_Lope » Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:38 am

janTepanNetaPelin wrote:But if you replace ":", ".", "-", "=" with white spaces, then you get normal Toki Pona.


But if you remove ":" and "." the punctuation marks will be lost.
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Re: nasin toki pi toki pona

Postby janTepanNetaPelin » Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:04 am

jan_Lope wrote:
janTepanNetaPelin wrote:But if you replace ":", ".", "-", "=" with white spaces, then you get normal Toki Pona.


But if you remove ":" and "." the punctuation marks will be lost.


Yes. I meant only those surrounded by words, i.e. not accompanied by white spaces. You get a better idea if you check the link in my signature.
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Re: nasin toki pi toki pona

Postby janTepanNetaPelin » Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:46 am

jan_Lope wrote:But if you remove ":" and "." the punctuation marks will be lost.


I modified my interpunctuation (and explained it in the grammar document, see link in the signature). I hope it's easier to digest now. I don't use ":" between particle and its argument anymore and I changed "." to "+" between pre-verb and verb. (I also removed "=" between preposition and its argument.)

In the process I explained the usage of "," as it is used in pu.
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Re: nasin toki pi toki pona

Postby janTepanNetaPelin » Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:26 am

jan pi toki pona o!
(Saluton tokiponistoj!

mi sin e lipu mi pi nasin pi toki pona.
Mi ĝisdatigis mian tokiponan gramatikon.

https://github.com/stefichjo/toki-pona/blob/master/README.md#toki-kipisi

mi toki e ijo pi "relativa frazo". (kulupu pi nimi suli lon monsi pi nimi "pi ni:")
(Mi parolas pri relativaj frazoj. (Frazoj post "pi ni:".))

o lukin pona!
(Bonan legadon!)
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Re: nasin toki pi toki pona

Postby janKipo » Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:26 pm

Since Tepan doesn't see my comments, I won't go into details about what is wrong with his dialect, even from a conservative point of view. I just not the usual problems, not the weird ones: he uses 'pi' with only one following word, especially 'pi ni:' for just 'ni:', although he also says that the 'pi' should disappear in that place. He tells the usual tale about 'pi' joining nouns and, as usual, follows it with examples using adjectives (called "nouns" for the occasion). And so on. He is very judgemental about usage, disallowing many common practices (called slang or worse). Interesting to read, but not to heed.

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Re: nasin toki pi toki pona

Postby janTepanNetaPelin » Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:45 pm

jan pi toki pona o!

TP: mi sin e lipu mi pi nasin toki pi toki pona. ona li lili a!
EO: Mi ĝisdatigis mian tokiponan gramatikon. Ĝi ja estas eta!

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