Random chat in #learnanylanguage on IRC Freenode
[13:48] <Amikeco> hello Sonja, and welcome to our channel!
[13:48] <Amikeco> where are you from?
[13:49] <Sonja> Kanado
[13:49] <Sonja> land of salmon
[13:49] <Sonja> and muslims
[13:49] <Sonja> and Inuit
[13:51] <Amikeco> so you are a muslim salmon? :p
[13:51] <Sonja> naw
[13:51] <Sonja> but i like to eat salmon
[13:51] <Sonja> and i like to befriend muslims
[13:52] <Sonja> or at least try to understand islam
[13:52] <Amikeco> be careful, a bear might be grumpy because you steal te salmons
[13:53] <Amikeco> for me the abrahamitic religions are like the romance language family: the same base, many common principles but also quite a few distinct differences
[13:53] <Amikeco> i don't adhere to any of those, though
[13:55] <Expug> haha a religions' family like there are language families
[13:57] <Amikeco> Expug: but that's what they are!
[13:58] <Amikeco> you also have uncountable dialects, they just call it "denominations"
[13:58] <Expug> i knew that, but somehow I hadn't realized that
[13:58] <Expug> there are some pidgins and creoles too
[13:58] <Sonja> like toki poner?
[13:59] <Amikeco> this is a completely unrelated experiment which had been developed for art and recreational purposes
[14:00] * Amikeco offers mashed potatoes to Sonja for her salmon
[14:01] <Sonja> what experiment Amikeco?
[14:02] <Amikeco> toki pona is neither a language nor a pidgin, it is not even meant to be a full-flegded language, the creator just made it up for fun, you are not supposed to be able to express everything with it
[14:02] <Sonja> ohhh, teach me more
[14:02] <Sonja> you seem to know a lot about it
[14:03] <Amikeco> it is a kind of meditation, you can learn to think in new ways
[14:03] <Amikeco> oh, i'm sorry, but i can't help you with that but there are numerous pages of fans
[14:03] <Amikeco> i think the author has everything online
[14:03] <Sonja> cool
[14:04] <Sonja> does the author ever come in here?
[14:04] <Amikeco> no, and i don't recall her name right now but wikipedia surely knows it
[14:04] <Sonja> i see
thank you for sharing your knowledge
[14:08] <Amikeco> Sonja: in theory you could express everything in toki pona but you'd need to make very long descriptions and you only have a few roots compared to more developed languages, so it is very likely that the other person won't be able to follow your train of thought once it gets too complicated
[14:09] <Sonja> so in a sense it's a failed project if you can only talk about very rudimentary ideas
[14:09] <Amikeco> no, it is not failed, this is the purpose of it
[14:09] <Amikeco> you are not supposed to express complicated things
[14:09] <Sonja> ahh
[14:10] <Amikeco> it's like juggling for your brain cells
[14:10] <Sonja> so it's a form of exercise to balance your brain
[14:10] <Amikeco> or like a mandala
[14:10] <Sonja> mandalas are beautiful. a model for the universe. microcosm.
[14:10] <Amikeco> that's at least my opinion, others might think differently
[14:11] <Sonja> i never heard toki pona compared to a mandala before, and i find that analogy very beautiful
[14:11] <Sonja> thanks for the compliment
[14:12] <Sonja> Amikeco: may i post our chat log in the toki pona forums?
[14:13] <Sonja> it was interesting for me to hear your description of my language
[14:13] <Amikeco> Sonja: oh, are you actually the creator? O_O
[14:15] <Amikeco> Sonja: feel free, i don't have said anything i should be ashamed for
well, except for the part of the bear wanting to steal your salmon :p
[14:18] <Sonja> hehe
[14:23] <Sonja> amikeco what is your full name? or do you prefer i just call you Amikeco?
[14:23] <Amikeco> Sonja: oh, i'm Tony on Abavagada's board
[14:23] <Sonja> what board is that
[14:24] <Amikeco> Sonja: Abavagada is building a language website with lots of addons like tv, radio, exercises, vocabulary games and so on: http://www.parleremo.org/
[14:26] <Fivesheep> toki pona is fun.. it could only count from 1 to 10?
[14:27] <Amikeco> Fivesheep: some fully developed languages can't do that :p