D.Everett describes his experience living with the Piraha people in Brazil, and their language:
Daniel Everett: Endangered Languages and Lost Knowledge (1h speech plus 30 min. of Q&A)
janKipo wrote:mi sona ala e mute pi toki Pilawa. taso jan ante kin li sona ala e mute. mi awen tawa sona pona pi toki ni.
Good question -- what do you put in for 'h's? The little I have heard of Piraha~ suggests that tp would record the r as t (very dental flap)
janMato wrote:I did read they have a discourse pattern that I haven't seen in toki pona yet-- a type of subordination avoidance strategy
mi lukin e jan. jan li jo e waso lon luka. jan ni li sama.
I saw the man carrying a chicken.
I saw a man. The man was carrying a chicken. These men were the same person.
Anyhow, I'm skeptical that bumping grammar out of syntax and into discourse make a language much simpler. Some day I hope to demonstrate this by creating a language with all 2 word sentences, the longest sentence that chimpanzees have been able to reliably and intelligibly produce. (Source Adam's Tongue) The hypothetical conlang would have massive chains of interlocked 2 word sentences that would probably follow a lot of recognizable discourse patterns. And the chimps probably still wouldn't be able to use this hypothetical language.
janMato wrote:I did read they have a discourse pattern that I haven't seen in toki pona yet-- a type of subordination avoidance strategy
mi lukin e jan. jan li jo e waso lon luka. jan ni li sama.
I saw the man carrying a chicken.
I saw a man. The man was carrying a chicken. These men were the same person.
Anyhow, I'm skeptical that bumping grammar out of syntax and into discourse make a language much simpler. Some day I hope to demonstrate this by creating a language with all 2 word sentences, the longest sentence that chimpanzees have been able to reliably and intelligibly produce. (Source Adam's Tongue) The hypothetical conlang would have massive chains of interlocked 2 word sentences that would probably follow a lot of recognizable discourse patterns. And the chimps probably still wouldn't be able to use this hypothetical language.
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