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Toki Pona Forums • Use "seme la" as a yes/no question marker - Page 2
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Re: Use "seme la" as a yes/no question marker

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:26 pm
by janKipo
Note that pu says that ‘lon x’ at the end can be replaced by ‘x la’ at the beginning. Not the other way around. So, Lope is strictly correct here that you cannot go from ‘x la’ to ‘lon x’ generally.

Re: Use "seme la" as a yes/no question marker

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:04 pm
by janKesi
"X la Y" means roughly "in context X, Y." It encompasses some of the "lon X" meanings but it's also more general than that.

Re: Use "seme la" as a yes/no question marker

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 3:42 pm
by janTepanNetaPelin

Re: Use "seme la" as a yes/no question marker

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:21 pm
by janKesi

Re: Use "seme la" as a yes/no question marker

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:33 pm
by janKipo
Also, ‘ken la’, 'nanpa wan la’ ‘kin la’, tan ni la’, etc.

Re: Use "seme la" as a yes/no question marker

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:46 am
by janTepanNetaPelin

Re: Use "seme la" as a yes/no question marker

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:19 pm
by janKipo
Well, pu is a little inconsistent on 'A,la B’ since, in fact, it gives the formula as ‘A la B’, but uses a comma in all examples. This seems to be just Sonja’s habit and not an “official” position, since the comma is never necessary for clarity (or ever mentioned).

Re: Use "seme la" as a yes/no question marker

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 7:43 am
by jan_Lope

Re: Use "seme la" as a yes/no question marker

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 11:44 am
by janKipo
Trick challenge. Any sample you offer (there is no explicit rule) can be immediately reinterpreted as a noun+ noun or noun+ adj string (cf. the pu/Pije ‘pi’ rule), so not a counterexample, despite “obviously” being a prepositional phrase. Thus ‘tan ni la’, ordinarily meaning “because of this, therefore, so” is now “given this cause/reason” with about the same force. It makes very little practical difference, but it does make some explanations harder or more arbitrary (cf ‘pi’ again).

Re: Use "seme la" as a yes/no question marker

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 4:27 pm
by janTepanNetaPelin