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Toki Pona Forums • Pakala -> Paka ala
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Pakala -> Paka ala

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:37 am
by janNikole
I'm looking at the etymology of some of the words to get to the heart of meaning.

From what I can gather.... Pakala seems to be a transliteration of a Finnish word parantaa and ala

what about changing the word pakala to paka. with paka ala to mean what pakala means now.

paka
v. to mend, fix, repair, heal
n. bandage, medicine

Uses:
jan paka - doctor, healing person,
tomo paka - hospital
ilo paka - fixing tool/device

mi paka ala e noka mi. mi tawa tomo paka. jan paka li paka e noka mi. noka mi li pona.

Re: Pakala -> Paka ala

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:10 am
by jan_Lope

Re: Pakala -> Paka ala

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:27 am
by janNikole

Re: Pakala -> Paka ala

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:25 am
by jan_Lope

Re: Pakala -> Paka ala

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:50 am
by janNikole

Re: Pakala -> Paka ala

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:31 pm
by janKipo
Well, I haven’t read up on Lope’s versions of all this in a while, but I suspect they are not quite the same as the communities generally. I would have
doctor, etc. ‘jan pi pona sijelo. (person who fixes bodies). A good doctor is probably best as ‘jan pona pi pona sijelo’, though ‘jan pi pona sijelo, pona’ also works (comma optional but helpful)
We sorta agree on ‘jo e pilin pona’ except, I think the ‘jo e’ is superfluous and am philosophicaly opposed to ‘pilin pona’ (from English) as opposed to ‘pona pilin’. No one agrees with the last bit, of course.
‘jo e sijelo pona’ looks fine.
‘tomo pi pona sijelo’ looksfind, “a building that fixes bodies” -- it’s a verb , not an adjective.
'jan pi sona sijelo' for an anatmist, physiologist, I suppose

Re: Pakala -> Paka ala

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:52 am
by jan_Lope

Re: Pakala -> Paka ala

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:38 pm
by jan Ne
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix ... ona/pakala
pakala is not from Finnish
It's from Tok Pisisn bagarap

Re: Pakala -> Paka ala

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:41 pm
by janKipo
We seem to be playing a different game here than etymology, though I am not sure what it is exactly, nor whether it is ultimately interesting. Note that Finnish “parantaa” would not give ‘paka(la)’ but ‘palanta’.