The rejection of 'en' in the DO in the lessons seems to apply explicitly only to joining two NPs as DO -- you should use 'e'. The question of joining two modifiers (including two NP modifiers) is not mentioned explicitly, iirc. So is tp an ant language or a grasshopper one, is everything not expressly allowed forbidden, or is everything not expressly forbidden allowed? I think we are nearer the latter, so use 'en' for modifiers in DO and for anything in Subj and PP (well, maybe not for the prepositions themselves). This leaves the question whether it can be used in VP for compounded verbs (no English example of which comes to mind, so this may be a pointless question, though tp might find a use for such) or for compounded modifiers ("He ran back and forth"). Again, I'd say so, though with a lot less confidence.
Again, note the difference between the logic "and" and the compounding one. I think the compounding one should be allowed even in DOs between head nouns, if that is appropriate. And similarly, a compounding "and' could go anywhere (legal) in the 'la' clause, while the logical one might be suspect or even wrong (though we do need a way of extending both what goes before a 'la' and what comes after-- even beyond the ambiguous double 'la's).
It seems to me that, once we allow DOs in iterated 'li's we are saying that what goes there is a predicate and thus PPs ought to be allowed as well. But I can imagine objections. Of course all of this arises because we try to say too much in one breath rather than breaking it down into its parts, which is the tp way.
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