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tenpo pi nasin kiwen

Postby Mako » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:02 pm

tenpo pi kiwen sin la mi utala mute wawa
tawa moku,
tawa sona pona,
tawa selo pi soweli poka noka tu;
tenpo pi kama suno jan la
mi jan musi tawa kulupu jan mi
mi toki e ijo ni:
mi ale li utala e ijo,
li monsuta e ijo,
li pilin e ijo.

In the time of new stone, I fought much and hard
for food
for glory
for the ski of beasts with two toes;
In the time of dawn of man
I was bard for my clan
I said these things:
we fought things,
we feared things,
we felt things.

tenpo pi kama kasi pi tenpo pi sin ala
li kama tu e kulupu pi telo lete pi ma Pikaja la
mi toki pini sama mi toki lon tenpo ni.
jan pi jan pakala
en jan pi sijelo lili
en jan li lon insa ma
en jan sewi pi kiwen suli
en jan sewi pi kiwen sewi
li lon poka mi
li lon anpa mi
li lon sewi mi.

When the ancient spring split the ice-pack of Biscay,
I sang as I now sing.
Troll and gnome and dwerg
The gods of cliff of berg
were beside me and below me and above me.

jan pali ike tan ma ante Soluke
li toki e ni: nasin mi li ike.
ona li kama moli tan ilo kiwen.
pilin musi mi li awen
anpa ilo loje pi jan sitelen tan ma Kene.

A rival workman from Solutre
said this: my way was bad.
He died from a stone tool.
My artistic view remained
below the heart of a etcher from Grenelle.

mi weka e selo tan kiwen lawa;
soweli mi li moku wawa.
mi pana e nena moku lon len sike.
mi pona e uta mi.
mi toki e ni: ni li pona. jan ante li moli.
mi sona e ni: nasin mi li pona. nasin ante li ike.

I removed flesh from skull;
My dogs ate voraciously.
I put the teeth on a circle.
I cleaned my mouth.
I said: this is good. The foreigners are dead.
I know this: my way is good. The other way is bad.

jan sewi lili mi li lukin e ike.
ona li kama tan ma sewi pi palisa sewi.
mi lape la ona li toki e ni tawa mi:
a! nasin pi toki musi kulupu li mute.
a! nasin ni ale ale li pona!

My totem saw the badness.
He came from the holy place of his totem pole.
While I slept he said this unto me:
O! The way of tribal lays are many.
O! Every one of these ways is right!


http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/in-the-neolithic-age/

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Re: tenpo pi nasin kiwen

Postby jan-ante » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:23 pm


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Re: tenpo pi nasin kiwen

Postby Mako » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:48 pm


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Re: tenpo pi nasin kiwen

Postby jan-ante » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:12 am


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Re: tenpo pi nasin kiwen

Postby janKipo » Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:47 pm

I won't get into poetics but just note that tp doesn't have an established tradition yet, so we are letting just about anything go for now.
What does "fanon" mean? I thought of flamewars and revolutionary African politics. The first seemed to fit.
As for the words, while their status is a bit shadowy (Sonja seems to toss out a lot of stuff with no follow up), they have been around long enough and discussed enough to have at least a poetic legitimacy (like the defunct words).
What is a dwerg? It sounds more scifiish than 'jan kiwen'.

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Re: tenpo pi nasin kiwen

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Re: tenpo pi nasin kiwen

Postby janKipo » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:10 pm

'fan on' is cute and, as the existence of the term itself suggests, a regular phenomenon in conlangery. Not sure what dwarves have to do with 'jan kiwen'.
The effect of shadow words is more pronounced in tp (and conlangs generally where they are possible) because they constitute a larger percentage of the vocabulary --around 8% in tp.

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