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Toki Pona Forums • monsuta moli
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monsuta moli

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:15 pm
by mije Wi
mi wile monsuta ala e moli. mi pilin e ni. tenpo moli la mi monsuta mute e ona.

Re: monsuta moli

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:28 pm
by janMato
moli li sama lape. mi monsuta ala e lape.

Re: monsuta moli

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:59 am
by janKipo
Does 'monsuta' as vt mean "be afraid of", as here, or "frighten"? The latter seems more reasonable somehow.

Re: monsuta moli

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:04 am
by janMato
Good point. I don't know.

mi en lape li monsuta ala.

Sleep and me characterized by the quality of lacking fear in our relationship.

Re: monsuta moli

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:25 am
by janKipo
Well. either each of you is not frightening or not frightened, or the combo (hard to imagine) is. But not the relation between the two. I notice the new word list is lacking 'monsuta'.

Re: monsuta moli

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:29 am
by janMato
monsuta word is still there:

http://en.tokipona.org/wiki/monsuta does indeed exist. I can't tell if it's absence on the list it is an oversight.

http://en.tokipona.org/wiki/noka redirects to anpa. Given that there is a redirect, I guess we have evidence that the disappearance of noka was intentional.

I don't think noka can be replaced with anpa. In anycase, I would have guessed noka would be closer to luka.

mi tawa anpa. --> I travel by means of my lower body(?!) vs I'm going down (town).

Re: monsuta moli

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:45 am
by janKipo
I suppose that 'noka' is supposed to be 'luka anpa' or some such. jaki!
But it does appear that 'monsuta' as vt is "be afraid of" "make DO an object of fear" but "apply an object of fear to DO" is still a possibility.

Re: monsuta moli

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:19 pm
by mije Wi

Re: monsuta moli

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:05 pm
by janMato
moli li lon poka ala mute la mi monsuta ala.
moli li lon poka mute la mi monsuta ala.

moli li lon insa tan mi anu* mi ken kepeken e wawa mi tawa ni mi ante moli mi la mi monsuta e moli.

*I'm not sure if it's legit to have anu here, but without it, the sentence makes less sense.

Re: monsuta moli

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:26 pm
by janKipo
?? Either death is on the inside from (?) or if I can use my strength to change my death (missing a 'li'), then I fear death.??