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Re: monsuta moli

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janKipo wrote:?? Either death is on the inside from (?) or if I can use my strength to change my death (missing a 'li'), then I fear death.??
Again, I can't express scales yet.

If death is very close, I'm not afraid. If death is very far away, I'm not afraid.

If death is somewhere in the middle ground, or if I have the power to do something about it, then I am afraid of death.

moli li lon insa tan mi anu* mi ken kepeken e wawa mi tawa ni: mi ante e moli mi la mi monsuta e moli.

Prevent would be a better word than ante, but I can't think of a suitable phrase.
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Re: monsuta moli

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Finding a way to indicate the relative scopes of 'anu' and 'la' is a real headache (which translates as "Don't do it").
moli li poka mute la mi monsuta ala
moli li weka mute la mi monsuta ala
moli li insa la mi monsuta
mi ken kama ala e moli la mi monsuta.
Need to set up the pattern to force the "middle" reading of 'insa'
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Re: monsuta moli

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moli li poka mute la...
moli li poka insa la...
moli li poka ala la...

Is this correct?
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Re: monsuta moli

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pona mute.
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Re: monsuta moli

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o pilin e moli. pilin ni li pana e sona mute.
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Re: monsuta moli

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O pilin e ijo moli? (think about death rather than think dead things)
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janSilipu wrote:O pilin e ijo moli? (think about death rather than think dead things)
| was trying to recite 'memento mori' in toki pona. Than, when we say '...e moli', 'moli' become a'dead thing'? For me 'mjli' as a verb is 'death' itself.
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'moli' means "dead" as an adjective, so "is dead" as a verb. 'pilin e ijo X' is an (unsatisfying, perhaps ) idiom for "think about X". 'pilin e moli' literally means "think/feel dead".
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janSilipu wrote:'moli' means "dead" as an adjective, so "is dead" as a verb. 'pilin e ijo X' is an (unsatisfying, perhaps ) idiom for "think about X". 'pilin e moli' literally means "think/feel dead".

Wordlist at tokipona.net shows "death"as a translation of noun "moli".
Word after 'e' supposdd to be noun (object of action) or what? Is there a rule for that?
I thought that "pilin moli" is for "feeling dead", or "dead-like feeling", to be more precise.
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Re: monsuta moli

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lon. Mi pakala toki. nimi 'pilin e moli' li sona nimi Inli "think/ feel death" anu "...a dead thing".
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