monsuta moli

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mije Wi
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monsuta moli

Postby mije Wi » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:15 pm

mi wile monsuta ala e moli. mi pilin e ni. tenpo moli la mi monsuta mute e ona.
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Re: monsuta moli

Postby janMato » Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:28 pm

moli li sama lape. mi monsuta ala e lape.

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Re: monsuta moli

Postby janKipo » Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:59 am

Does 'monsuta' as vt mean "be afraid of", as here, or "frighten"? The latter seems more reasonable somehow.

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Re: monsuta moli

Postby janMato » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:04 am

Good point. I don't know.

mi en lape li monsuta ala.

Sleep and me characterized by the quality of lacking fear in our relationship.

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Re: monsuta moli

Postby janKipo » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:25 am

Well. either each of you is not frightening or not frightened, or the combo (hard to imagine) is. But not the relation between the two. I notice the new word list is lacking 'monsuta'.

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Re: monsuta moli

Postby janMato » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:29 am

monsuta word is still there:

http://en.tokipona.org/wiki/monsuta does indeed exist. I can't tell if it's absence on the list it is an oversight.

http://en.tokipona.org/wiki/noka redirects to anpa. Given that there is a redirect, I guess we have evidence that the disappearance of noka was intentional.

I don't think noka can be replaced with anpa. In anycase, I would have guessed noka would be closer to luka.

mi tawa anpa. --> I travel by means of my lower body(?!) vs I'm going down (town).

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Re: monsuta moli

Postby janKipo » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:45 am

I suppose that 'noka' is supposed to be 'luka anpa' or some such. jaki!
But it does appear that 'monsuta' as vt is "be afraid of" "make DO an object of fear" but "apply an object of fear to DO" is still a possibility.

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Re: monsuta moli

Postby mije Wi » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:19 pm

janMato wrote:moli li sama lape. mi monsuta ala e lape.

moli li poka la sina monsuta e ona anu ala. mi monsuta.
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Re: monsuta moli

Postby janMato » Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:05 pm

moli li lon poka ala mute la mi monsuta ala.
moli li lon poka mute la mi monsuta ala.

moli li lon insa tan mi anu* mi ken kepeken e wawa mi tawa ni mi ante moli mi la mi monsuta e moli.

*I'm not sure if it's legit to have anu here, but without it, the sentence makes less sense.

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Re: monsuta moli

Postby janKipo » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:26 pm

?? Either death is on the inside from (?) or if I can use my strength to change my death (missing a 'li'), then I fear death.??


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