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Re: nasin pona

Postby jan Ote » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:48 am

jan-ante wrote:it is one of the hottest topics in forum
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Re: nasin pona

Postby janKipo » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:32 am

Ante
Well, aside from calling it all a Ponzi scheme, there is little political in my piece, just basic economics. I am sorry about shifting to English, but I did not seem to be making my point -- that, vile as it may be, the pyramidal loan economy is the system that has created the civilization we enjoy -- in tp. And I didn't think I could do better.
We do seem to have wandered a long way from the point of the original entry, though.
Ote:
The broker paradigm (being both a borrower and a lender) broke down fairly early in favor of a system that provided a bit more security and also provided for long distance transfers of funds (although letters of credit may still exist in some places).
This thread is now on its ninth page, meaning more than 80 entries. I think that qualifies it for "most active", especially since it is less than a month old.

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Re: nasin pona

Postby jan-ante » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:03 am

janKipo wrote: that, vile as it may be, the pyramidal loan economy is the system that has created the civilization we enjoy -- in tp.

ken la nasin mani li ike tawa jan. taso ona li pali e kulupu jan sin. kulupu jan sin li pona tawa mi mute
do you agree?

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Re: nasin pona

Postby janKipo » Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:22 pm

ijo pi sama ni. nasin mani pi tenpo ni la ken e nasin tawa ni: jan li ken tawa ma ali li ken lukin e kama pi ma ali li ken toki tawa jan ali li ken pilin e ni: jan ali li jan poka mi.

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Re: nasin pona

Postby jan-ante » Thu Sep 30, 2010 3:41 pm

janKipo wrote:ijo pi sama ni. nasin mani pi tenpo ni la ken e nasin tawa ni: jan li ken tawa ma ali li ken lukin e kama pi ma ali li ken toki tawa jan ali li ken pilin e ni: jan ali li jan poka mi.

0) do you mean nasin mani pi tenpo ni li ken ... ?
1) jan li jo e mani mute la ona li ken tawa ma ante. jan li jo e mani lili la ona li ken ala tawa ma ante.
2) jan li ken tawa ma ante la ni li pona tawa ona. taso pona ni li lili. o lukin e poka ante nasin mani li moli e jan mute lon ma mute. ike wan taso li ni: jan mani pi ma Inli li esun e kasi nasa tawa ma Sonka li kama jo e mani mute tan jan Sonka. jan Sonka li kama nasa li moli. jan mani Inli li kk e mani ona tawa pona ona: ona li pali e ilo moli mute li lawa e ma mute. tenpo ni la jan Inli ale li ken tawa ma ante. taso jan sonka mute li jo e mani lili: jan mani Inli li kama jo e mani ona. jan Sonka li ken ala tawa ma ante. taso ona li ken ala pali ala tan ni: jan lili ona li wile moku. ni li nasin mani

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Re: nasin pona

Postby jan Ote » Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:11 am

jan-ante wrote:jan mani pi ma Inli li esun e kasi nasa tawa ma Sonka li kama jo e mani mute tan jan Sonka.
jan li wile ala jo e kasi nasa la ona li kama jo ala e kasi nasa li pana ala e mani. jan mani ike li ken kepeken e sona ike tawa jan. ni li lon. taso, seme li ike? jan anu mani li ike? jan li pali e ike. mani li pali ala.

ken la nasin mani li ike. ken la mani taso li ken ala mama e mani sin. kin la ona li soweli ala li ken ala kama mama. taso o kute e toki ante: esun li pona ala pona?

esun li pona la jan esun en jan pi mani mute li ken sitelen e lipu wile pi nimi Lasina Contractum Trinius. wile nanpa wan pi lipu ni li pona. wile nanpa tu pi lipu ni li pona. wile nanpa tu wan pi lipu ni li pona. lipu wile Contractum Trinius wan li ike la ona li ike tan seme? tenpo suli pini la jan lawa pi kulupu pi nasin sewi Kolisu li pilin e ni: nasin pi lipu wile Contractum Trinius li ike. ona li wile lawa e ni: jan li ken ala kepeken e nasin ni. taso ona li ken ala toki e ni: tan pi ike ni li seme? wile lili ali pi lipu Contractum Trinius li pona!

ken la lipu wile ni li ike ala. taso, o lukin: jan esun en jan mani li kepeken e lipu wile ni la jan mani li kama jan pi tomo mani. tan ni la ni li lon: ken la jan pi tomo mani li ike ala. sama la ni li lon: ken la nasin mani li ike ala.

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Re: nasin pona

Postby janKipo » Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:21 pm

open la mi pana e pilin ike mi tawa sina ali tawa ni. mi ken e ni: toki jaki ni li awen . o weka e ike ni mi.
jan ante o. 0) lon. nimi 'li' taso nimi 'la' ala. 1) tenp ni la jan li ken ala tawa ma ante tan ni taso: ona li jo ala e mani. tenpo pini la jan li ken ala tawa ma ante tan ali. 2)?'poka ante. nasin mani'? ni li nasin mani pi jan pi tenpo pini. taso ken la jan pi tenpo kama li pali e ante. nasin mani sama li wile ala e ni. jan mani taso li wile.
jan Ote o. ike la jan Sonko li wile jo e kasi nasa tan ni: ona li wile esun e kili pali ona. jan esun li esun e kasi nasa taso tawa ona.

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Re: nasin pona

Postby jan-ante » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:44 pm

jan Ote wrote: jan li wile ala jo e kasi nasa la ona li kama jo ala e kasi nasa li pana ala e mani.

pona mute. seme li kama tan ni? mi ken ala ken esun e kasi nasa tawa ma Posuka li kama jo e mani tan jan Posuka? taso mi sona e ni: jan li ken ala esun e kasi nasa tawa ma Inli. o lukin: jan mani Inli li kama jo e mani ona pi kasi nasa tan ma Sonka. taso jan li kama jo e mani pi kasi nasa tan ma Inli la ona li utala e ona.

taso, seme li ike? jan anu mani li ike? jan li pali e ike. mani li pali ala.
mi pilin e ni: tenpo ni la mani li kama ike tan nasin ona. jan li tawa lon nasin ni la ona li kama ike.

taso o kute e toki ante: esun li pona ala pona?
toki ni li kin toki ante. mi pilin e ni: tenpo pini la esun li pona tawa kulupu jan. taso esun pi tenpo ni li ike tawa kulupu jan.

esun li pona la jan esun en jan pi mani mute li ken sitelen e lipu wile pi nimi Lasina Contractum Trinius.

mi sona ala e lipu ni. jan mani kin li sona ala e e lipu ni. taso mi sona e ni: lipu ni li ken kama lili e mani ona la ona li weka e lipu ni

ken la lipu wile ni li ike ala. taso, o lukin: jan esun en jan mani li kepeken e lipu wile ni la jan mani li kama jan pi tomo mani. tan ni la ni li lon: ken la jan pi tomo mani li ike ala. sama la ni li lon: ken la nasin mani li ike ala.
mi ken ala lukin e nasin pi sona sina:
ken la jan mani li kama jan pi tomo mani => ken la nasin mani li ike ala.
ni li nasin ala tawa mi

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Re: nasin pona

Postby jan-ante » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:53 pm

janKipo wrote:open la mi pana e pilin ike mi tawa sina ali tawa ni.
mi pilin ante. sina kk e tp tawa toki pi nasin mani en toki pi nasin lawa. ni li pona tawa kulupu jan pi tp.

o weka e ike ni mi.
a funny play of tp words: o weka e ike ni mi <-> o weka e ike nimi both fit the situation

1) tenp ni la jan li ken ala tawa ma ante tan ni taso: ona li jo ala e mani. tenpo pini la jan li ken ala tawa ma ante tan ali.

mi pilin ante: tenpo pini la tan li sama

2)?'poka ante. nasin mani'? ni li nasin mani pi jan pi tenpo pini.

ni li nasin mani pi tenpo ni: o utala e ma Ilakija. o kama jo e ko seli pimeja pi ma Ilakija

taso ken la jan pi tenpo kama li pali e ante.

ken la kulupu jan pi tenpo kama li ante. jan pi tenpo kama li weka e nasin mani la ona li kama kin ante

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Re: nasin pona

Postby janKipo » Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:18 pm

lon la ken la jan pi mani pi kasi nasa li esun e kasi nasa lon ma Inlan la ona li pali. taso jan lawa pi ma Inlan li wile e mani mute tawa ken ni. jan lawa pi ma sonko pi tenpo pini li wile e mani lili taso anu kasi nasi kin tawa ken ni.
musi sina li musi kin. (I got it!)
mi mute li pilin sama ala pi nasin mani (nimi 'pi' ni li ike tawa mi). tan ni la tenpo suli la mi mute kin toki utala' ken la tenpo ni la mi mute li pini.


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