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toki pi jan suli

Postby mije Wi » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:20 pm

tenpo pini la jan suli Pome li toki e ni. wile jan li sinpin kiwen tawa jan sewi. kute la jan lili li toki e ni. mi sona ala e ni. jan ken ala wile. jan Pome li toki e ni. pali suli li wile ala. ona li pali jan suli. pali suli li wile pi jan pi pana sina. sina tawa ike. wile sina li ike. sina weka e ale tan ni. sina utala ala tawa pali ike li utala ala wile jan sina ike.

jan sin li tawa jan suli ona. jan sin li toki e ni. sona ni li ike e mi. tenpo li seme tawa ni. mi sin e mi. jan suli li toki e ni. sina wile tenpo suno luka. jan sin li toki e ni. ona li mute anu ala. jan suli li toki e ni. sina wile tenpo suna luka ala. sina wile tenpo suno luka luka. jan sin li toki e ni. sina toki e ni tan seme. jan suli ki toki e ni. sina wile tenpo suno luka luka ala. sina wile tenpo suno mute. o tawa tomo sina. o lon pona. tenpo suli li tawa sina. jan sin li kin tawa tomo ona. tenpo mute pini la jan sin li tawa jan suli. jan suli li toki e ni. sina tawa mi tan seme. jan sin li toki e ni. mi lon tan ni. mi toki e pali ike mi. mi sin ala e mi tan ni. mi wile sona e tenpo. kama sin li sin ala li tawa. jan suli li toki e ni. sina poka ma pi jan sewi. o tawa tomo sina. o lon pona.

jan suli Antono li lon e ma pi jan ala. pilin ike li jo e ona. ona li toki tawa jan sewi. ona li lukin e ni. jan poka li pali mute ala li toki mute ala tawa jan sewi. jan suli li kute e ni. pali e ni la sina tawa ma sewi. jan poka li jan kin pi toki pi jan sewi. tenpo sin la jan Antono li pali e ni li tawa ma sewi.
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Re: toki pi jan suli

Postby janKipo » Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:21 pm


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Re: toki pi jan suli

Postby mije Wi » Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:56 pm

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Re: toki pi jan suli

Postby janKipo » Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:00 pm


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Re: toki pi jan suli

Postby mije Wi » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:23 am

Ok. Do you find it unpolite if I will edit the first message?

jan Pome li jan pi kulupu ala.
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Re: toki pi jan suli

Postby janKipo » Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:28 am

Not at all, although -- to make the subsequent conversation intelligible -- it would be better to put the new version in a separate entry. jan Pome is unique, OK, but does he have a name that might be recognizable in English, say?

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Re: toki pi jan suli

Postby mije Wi » Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:37 am

mi nasa a. kin la nimi Pome li nimi Pomen.

The original name in greek is Poemen, which means Shepherd. How do you say shepherd in tp?
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Re: toki pi jan suli

Postby janKipo » Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:37 am

'jan pi lawa mani' is a good first guess. How do you say "Gnostic"? 'jan pi sona sewi' ? I have to say this is an interesting addition to the religion section.

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Re: toki pi jan suli

Postby mije Wi » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:25 am

jan lawa soweli li pona anu ala? jan Janlawasoweli li toki e ni.

I would say Gnostic "jan pi sona nasa", but that's point of views. A more neutral would be "jan pi olin ala pi sijelo". Anyway I prefer proper names for religions. ken la nasin sewi li nasin pona tawa mi li nasin ike tawa sina.
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Re: toki pi jan suli

Postby janKipo » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:43 am

'jan pi lawa soweli' is OK, since most soweli that have a human lawa are also mani, the other form is just slightly more precise (although it could be a cowherd as well as a shepherd).

Whew! I thought you were promoting Gnosticism rather than just citing it. I can't quite buy 'sona nasa,' as it is a bit judgmental, and 'jan pi olin ala sijelo' doesn't cover the lot (though it gets most of them; I forget where Poemen lies on that spectrum). It occurs to me, since I haven't looked at this stuff in a while, that this may not be the Gnostic shepherd but the Shepherd of Hermas, getting us back closer to orthodoxy. By and large, any nasin sewi is OK with me (some more than others, of course, since, as an Episcopalian, I have certain historic commitments).
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