utala musi pi toki ante

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utala musi pi toki ante

Postby jan Sanje » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:34 pm

toki!
I decided to organize a translation contest. Every few days I will post an aphorism or a short quote from a book of mine. You goal is to find the cleanest translation possible.
At the end of a round, I will select the best translation in my opinion and give one point to the author.
I think it could motivate people to get into toki pona and make others practice!

Leaderboard:
janTepanNetaPelin: 4
jan Jojanese: .5


Here’s the first challenge: "When you have time, you often lose it." — Daniel
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ali li pona.

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Re: utala musi pi toki ante

Postby WasoPimeja » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:15 am

toki! utala musi ni li pona tawa mi.

tenpo kama lili la mi lukin ante e toki lili ni tawa toki pona. ona li ike lili tawa mi. mi o toki insa...
ala li sin lon anpa suno. jan ala li ken toki e ni: 'o lukin! ni li sin a!' tan ni: ale li kama li tawa weka lon tenpo pini.- Eccl. 1.10

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Re: utala musi pi toki ante

Postby WasoPimeja » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:56 am

mi o lukin. ken la:

sina jo e tenpo la tenpo li tawa

ken la ni li ante mute. mi sona ala...

mi wile e ni: jan Tepan en jan Kipo li lukin ante e toki lili ni. mi kama sona e ijo mute pi toki pona tan ona tu.
ala li sin lon anpa suno. jan ala li ken toki e ni: 'o lukin! ni li sin a!' tan ni: ale li kama li tawa weka lon tenpo pini.- Eccl. 1.10

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Re: utala musi pi toki ante

Postby jan Sanje » Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:13 am

toki sina li pona. taso ken la jan Tepan en jan Kipo li lukin e ni.
tenpo suno nanpa tu la mi pana e toki mi.
ali li pona.

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Re: utala musi pi toki ante

Postby janKipo » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:38 pm

Boringly 'sina jo e tenpo la temp mute la ona li tawa weka.' But that doesn’t,t get to deeper meaning, which I can't seem to formulate. Maybe, 'sina pilin e ni: sina jo e tenpo suli la sina kepeken sona ala ona.'

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Re: utala musi pi toki ante

Postby janTepanNetaPelin » Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:46 am

jan Sanje wrote:toki!
I decided to organize a translation contest. Every few days I will post an aphorism or a short quote from a book of mine. You goal is to find the cleanest translation possible.
At the end of a round, I will select the best translation in my opinion and give one point to the author.
I think it could motivate people to get into toki pona and make others practice!

Leaderboard:
jan Ala: 0


Here’s the first challenge: "When you have time, you often lose it." — Daniel


toki, jan Sanje o!

"sina jo e tenpo la, tenpo mute la sina ken ala awen e ona."

sama la lipu sona Tatowepa la jan li ken utala. :)

awen pona!
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mi jan Tepan. mi pu. mi weka e jan nasa Kipo e jan nasa Lope.

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Re: utala musi pi toki ante

Postby jan Sanje » Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:29 pm

WasoPimeja
sina jo e tenpo la tenpo li tawa.

Your translation is synthetic but two points are missing in my opinion:
- We don’t understand that you are responsible for the loss of time
- The "often" nuance is not there

janKipo
sina pilin e ni: sina jo e tenpo suli la sina kepeken sona ala ona.

I love this one! "kepeken sona ala" is great!

janTepanNetaPelin
sina jo e tenpo la, tenpo mute la sina ken ala awen e ona.

Definitely my favorite translation! It is really clear and using "awen ala" for "lose" is smart. I also appreciate the two contexts.

So I give the very first point to janTepanNetaPelin! The next challenge is about feelings.
"Jealousy lasts longer than love." — Charles Joseph
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Re: utala musi pi toki ante

Postby WasoPimeja » Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:51 pm

jan Sanje wrote:
"Jealousy lasts longer than love." — Charles Joseph


A complex abstract concept and a comparison! ike!

taso mi pilin e ni: mi sona e nasin...
ala li sin lon anpa suno. jan ala li ken toki e ni: 'o lukin! ni li sin a!' tan ni: ale li kama li tawa weka lon tenpo pini.- Eccl. 1.10

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Re: utala musi pi toki ante

Postby WasoPimeja » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:35 pm

olin li awen. olin pakala li awen mute.


ken la ni li ike. mi sona ala ante e nimi 'jealousy' kepeken (anu 'lon'?) nasin pona.
ala li sin lon anpa suno. jan ala li ken toki e ni: 'o lukin! ni li sin a!' tan ni: ale li kama li tawa weka lon tenpo pini.- Eccl. 1.10

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Re: utala musi pi toki ante

Postby janTepanNetaPelin » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:11 pm

jan Sanje wrote:WasoPimeja
"Jealousy lasts longer than love." — Charles Joseph


(olin pona li awen lon tenpo pi suli mute. olin utala li awen lon tenpo pi suli lili.)

olin pona li kama suli. olin utala li awen lili.
https://github.com/stefichjo/toki-pona (mi sitelen e lipu ni pi toki pona)
mi jan Tepan. mi pu. mi weka e jan nasa Kipo e jan nasa Lope.


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