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Re: toki musi pi tenpo mun ali tawa jan pi toki pona

Postby janMato » Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:27 pm

I think I've got the largest consolidated collection of pure tp texts in one place:

http://tokipona.net/tp/CorpusReadability.aspx

If I were a paid editor, rather than a hobbyist that sometimes has free times and gets excessively interested in things, the I'd require contributors to:

1 Provide a parallel text at least chunked/matched up by paragraph, preferably by sentence, but that could make for some awkward English translations.
2 Provide a phrase glossary for any clever noun or verb phrases, or creative single word uses
3 Provide an interlinear gloss for any clever sentences.

Without out all that, an editor can't really decide how to fix whats wrong. And #3 is the most laborious, but would help the most in deciding if a clever construction is okay.

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Re: toki musi pi tenpo mun ali tawa jan pi toki pona

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Re: toki musi pi tenpo mun ali tawa jan pi toki pona

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Re: toki musi pi tenpo mun ali tawa jan pi toki pona

Postby janKipo » Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:49 am

Said spreadsheet is 2(3? 4?) years out of date and interesting constructions turn up almost every day.
One thing a single website source could do is search out these new phrases and provide translations (and commentary -- some of them are pretty awful). Always remembering that none of them have official status and are strictly available for other meanings, as are other phrases for the given meaning.
We probably also need some mind expanding about what words mean so that deciphering phrases becomes a bit easier (Oh, --- means ... here!)

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Re: toki musi pi tenpo mun ali tawa jan pi toki pona

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Re: toki musi pi tenpo mun ali tawa jan pi toki pona

Postby jan-ante » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:01 am

well, interesting discussion your have here, but i would like to shift a focus a little.
so what is actually the journal? it is no longer just one more tribune for discussions. to me, journal is a quality certificate on a text. i.e., an egitor (e.g. jan Mato) and 2 anonymous referees do certify the quality of some particualr text, provided the author accounted all their criticism and/or recommendations. to me, only 2 tokiponic text could be certified like this: jan Kikamesi (both parts) and toki pi kalama pona suli (1st part). but not jan lawa lili! so, as jan Mato has thought about, we can start the journal as a collection of high quality texts. whoever wants to get a quality certificate, he should submitt his text to the editor for reviewing. most of journals demand that no part of this text was published earlier. but i think we should not follow this rule. i.e. the people may rewrite (in order to improve quality) their text(s) published earlier on this forum and submitt it.

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Re: toki musi pi tenpo mun ali tawa jan pi toki pona

Postby iulius » Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:57 am

I'd love to make an informal fanzine or journal on Internet, printer friendly, with some short tales, poetry... written in toki pona. Maybe there are people interested here :)
Please, forgive my poor english. If I'm not posting this in the right place then let me know :)

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Re: toki musi pi tenpo mun ali tawa jan pi toki pona

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Re: toki musi pi tenpo mun ali tawa jan pi toki pona

Postby iulius » Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:56 pm

I'ts a great suggestion, Dave, sure I'll do it. Thank you :)

Indeed I'm looking for authors: not my own texts yet :roll:


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