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by Mako
Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:43 pm
Forum: musi
Topic: TP poetry styles
Replies: 6
Views: 4647

TP poetry styles

This topic is the result of a comment in the kama sona forum. What are the extant forms of TP poetry? It's hard to tell what is good, what is bad, and what isn't poetry without some guidelines. I did read that article on average line length. I was looking last night for that site with TP haiku, but ...
by Mako
Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:33 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: legal use of compound sentence ? [first try at bad poetry]
Replies: 10
Views: 5787

Re: legal use of compound sentence ? [first try at bad poetr

It pretty much has to be a matter of stresses to the line, without regard to the number of intervening unstressed syllables, so the Three Blind Mice sort of thing. Jan Kipo knows I disagree with him here (he is, of course, free to dislike my poetry). It is possible to write other styles of poetry i...
by Mako
Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:17 pm
Forum: musi
Topic: musi pi nanpa luka pi jan Katulu
Replies: 10
Views: 7768

Re: musi pi nanpa luka pi jan Katulu

On some thread or other, someone suggested that all 'wile' are about someone's wants and the trick is to find out whose, then use that for subject and original subject's action for object. I don't know how practical this is, but it ties in with the principle of holding the responsible responsible t...
by Mako
Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:58 pm
Forum: musi
Topic: toki musi sin tu pi toki pona.
Replies: 0
Views: 4548

toki musi sin tu pi toki pona.

A loose translation of the beginning of the Iliad. The meter is 9-7, based on Japanese epic meter (7-5), adjusted for the slightly longer average phrase in TP. Comments on the efficacy of the meter as well as translation issues are welcome, but I am more interested in working on meter. jan sewi musi...
by Mako
Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:55 am
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: reduplication for emphasis is wrong.
Replies: 4
Views: 3021

Re: reduplication for emphasis is wrong.

Except for numbers, both precise (wan, tu) and approximate (mute, ali, lili), I treat the repetition of a kulupu nimi X X as use of the same nimi with different meanings (although often the repetition is pleonastic). 'ike ike' 'a complex evil' or 'an evil complication', but not 'an evil evil'. Other...
by Mako
Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:42 am
Forum: musi
Topic: musi pi nanpa luka pi jan Katulu
Replies: 10
Views: 7768

Re: musi luka pi jan musi pi jan Katulu

Just so. I was talking about what you presented in tp. I assumed there was exhortation in the original, so 'o mi tu li lon. o mi tu li olin.' This may be weaker than you want, since it can mean just "Let's", but then the tp imperative is not very imperious -- it can be used for pleas, beg...
by Mako
Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:29 am
Forum: musi
Topic: musi pi nanpa luka pi jan Katulu
Replies: 10
Views: 7768

Re: musi luka pi jan musi pi jan Katulu

Sorry I haven't been commenting on your translations-- your beyond making beginner's mistakes where I usually like to jump in and add my two cents. (That's a good thing!) 1. There is no such thing as a 1st person imperative (some languages have 3rd person imperatives). I've read grammars of dozens ...
by Mako
Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:39 am
Forum: musi
Topic: musi luka tu pi jan Katulu
Replies: 4
Views: 3650

Re: musi luka tu pi jan Katulu

Ah so. The end of the littles, not the little ends. I probably would have used pini pi jan lili, but then maybe not. I didn't know that about asafoetida, which I know only as a particularly vile smelling herb that gives a pleasant taste to things. It is a delicacy, but here it is also a reference t...
by Mako
Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:12 pm
Forum: musi
Topic: musi pi nanpa wan pi jan Katulu
Replies: 0
Views: 4556

musi pi nanpa wan pi jan Katulu

mi pana e lipu mute ni tawa seme? mi pona e ona kepeken kiwen poka supa telo ala. jan Koneliju o! mi pana e ona tawa sina. tenpo mute la sina pilin e ni: jaki mi li pona kin tawa sina. jan taso pi jan Loma o! sina pali e ni: sina pana e sona pi tenpo ali kepeken lipu mute tu wan. kin la sona mute en...
by Mako
Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:57 pm
Forum: musi
Topic: musi luka tu pi jan Katulu
Replies: 4
Views: 3650

Re: musi luka tu pi jan Katulu

nanpa li mute pi ko... might be enough and skip the redundancy. or are you trying to use 'mute' as "more than" throughout here? I don't know my plants, but how is the plant with the little peak asafoetida (what does the phrase mean, anyhow). 'plant of the little end' – referring to its use...