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by janKipo
Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:26 pm
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: Use "seme la" as a yes/no question marker
Replies: 26
Views: 2499

Re: Use "seme la" as a yes/no question marker

Note that pu says that ‘lon x’ at the end can be replaced by ‘x la’ at the beginning. Not the other way around. So, Lope is strictly correct here that you cannot go from ‘x la’ to ‘lon x’ generally.
by janKipo
Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:14 pm
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: Use "seme la" as a yes/no question marker
Replies: 26
Views: 2499

Re: Use "seme la" as a yes/no question marker

Grammarly, the expression like 'tenpo ni la' come from terminal ,lon tenpo ni'. It seems just about all 'lon' PPs can be shifted thus and perhaps few others. Predicting what 'la' phrases can be shifted to terminal PP is much more risky and systematically based.
by janKipo
Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:25 am
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: First time here. A couple questions...
Replies: 13
Views: 1649

Re: First time here. A couple questions...

I can’t resist commenting on Tepan and Lope, even though I know they don’t read my comments. I don’t suppose that Lope’s eccentric tp is so remote from the norms as to be not tp, but it is strange in various ways (the invisible “be” for example) and clunky (the required commas). In any case, at leas...
by janKipo
Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:43 pm
Forum: ijo ante | miscellaneous | diversaj
Topic: Toki pona corpus project needs your help!
Replies: 13
Views: 4777

Re: Toki pona corpus project needs your help!

Sorry you have suchlow expectations for aa tp Glospe site. The samples from other languages look like it is ideal for catching nuance and context, which play a central role in tp. Admittedly, taking advantage of this possibility calls for more work than just typing in a couple of sentences, but the ...
by janKipo
Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:27 pm
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: Ideas for Phonology. Three vowel system.
Replies: 7
Views: 885

Re: Ideas for Phonology. Three vowel system.

Thanks.
I don’t know what conclusions to draw from this -- except that vowels just aren’t going to be venly distributed however we do it (though I’m not sure why that should matter at all).
by janKipo
Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:20 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: Is "li ala li" grammatically correct?
Replies: 1
Views: 470

Re: Is "li ala li" grammatically correct?

No. ‘li’ is merely a marker of the boundary between subject and predicate and has no content, so can’t be joined in this way. Further, a second ‘li’ could only appear after a predicate occurred (Well, ‘ala’ is a possible predicate, but not intended as one here. The short version of the rule about ‘a...
by janKipo
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:22 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: Comparisons
Replies: 4
Views: 769

Comparisons

The standard way to make a comparison in tp, "A is more x than B”, is with the two-sentence unit ‘A li x mute; B li x lili’. This approach fits nicely with certain aspects of tp: nothing like conjugations or declension, keep all setneces simple, and so on. But it is not pleasant for people from...
by janKipo
Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:12 am
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: Ideas for Phonology. Three vowel system.
Replies: 7
Views: 885

Re: Ideas for Phonology. Three vowel system.

Yes, ‘ken/kin’ has always stood in the way of three-vowel solutions -- pretty much all of them, since most seem to put /e/ and /i/ in the same group. The high-mid-low pattern doesn’t collapse /e/ and /i/, but it runs into ‘ken/kon’, as does the i-u-other pattern. ‘kin’ is mainly an artifical word so...
by janKipo
Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:38 pm
Forum: ijo ante | miscellaneous | diversaj
Topic: Toki pona corpus project needs your help!
Replies: 13
Views: 4777

Re: Toki pona corpus project needs your help!

This looks like a valuable aid eventually. right now it has a lot of problems. A quick glance shows several bad definitions right away, enough to worry about the whole. For basic starters, the correct version of “a” is nothing; ‘wan’ would only be used to contrast with some other number or with ‘ant...
by janKipo
Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:37 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: First time here. A couple questions...
Replies: 13
Views: 1649

Re: First time here. A couple questions...

Sorry I missed the ‘pi tomo’ (wrong as Lope says). ‘anu’ sems exempt from all the restrictions there are on ‘en’. I don’t know why; all the practical reasons seem to apply to ‘anu’ as well (I tend to ignore the restrictions on ‘en’ except the one between sentences, but even that gets an occasional n...

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