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by janKipo
Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:48 pm
Forum: sin pi toki pona
Topic: Comments on esun
Replies: 33
Views: 11945

Re: Comments on esun

Well, 'kijetasantakalu' (or whatever) was a joke (dated April 1 and all) and I hope is not really going to turn up in anything tp (I suppose 'soweli Kinkasu' and the like might get in here in some way, but ...). I see the entry on 'esun' (like most of the entries at this time) to be very incomplete,...
by janKipo
Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:38 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: jan Kikamesi. jan lawa pi ma tomo Uluku
Replies: 71
Views: 16281

Re: jan Kikamesi. jan lawa pi ma tomo Uluku

pona mute. sitele sina li pona tawa mi. mi pilin pona tan ni: sina sitelen pona kepeken toki pona. jan Kikamesi[li] li jan lawa pi ma tomo Uluku mama mute li pilin ike tan ni. 'tan ni la mama mute li pilin ike to make clearer the referent of 'ni' jan mute li pana e telo oko tan ni. ditto -- this is ...
by janKipo
Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:15 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: jan Kikamesi. jan lawa pi ma tomo Uluku
Replies: 71
Views: 16281

Re: jan Kikamesi. jan lawa pi ma tomo Uluku

ona li ala jan ike tawa sina "They are evilly human nothings to you" (zombies?) '...li jan ike ala tawa...' ja[k]n o kama jan sama tawa mi Actually clearer without 'tawa' which makes it look like "Come to me. my brother." though invalidly. Nice -- but I wish it was easier to kiss.
by janKipo
Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:07 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: jan Kikamesi. jan lawa pi ma tomo Uluku
Replies: 71
Views: 16281

Re: jan Kikamesi. jan lawa pi ma tomo Uluku

Nice! Sorry I missed the progression. As the fight goes on, will the trembling walls anpa?
by janKipo
Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:41 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: jan Kikamesi. jan lawa pi ma tomo Uluku
Replies: 71
Views: 16281

Re: jan Kikamesi. jan lawa pi ma tomo Uluku

jan Enkitu li tawa nasin pi ma tomo Uluku. Probably 'lon nasin pi..." He travels ON the road, not TO the road. ona li awen lon sinpin pi lupa tomo ni Probably 'lupa pi tomo ni' (although the difference between "this house-door} and "the door of this house" is not great) ona li aw...
by janKipo
Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:27 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: jan Kikamesi. jan lawa pi ma tomo Uluku
Replies: 71
Views: 16281

Re: jan Kikamesi. jan lawa pi ma tomo Uluku

Brilliant example of the problem. I might have tped it as 'wile pi jan Mewika' (certainly would have after this) but I might have gone off on a tangent, maybe not 'lape' (or maybe), but something about ideals and the like (pilin sewi?).
by janKipo
Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:16 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: jan Kikamesi. jan lawa pi ma tomo Uluku
Replies: 71
Views: 16281

Re: jan Kikamesi. jan lawa pi ma tomo Uluku

Well, this English speaking colleague probably wouldn't accept the calque, had he known it was one. But then, insisting that they have different words is probably a calque (so to speak) of English (and most European languages I can think of - Romance and Germanic). This sort of thing will be more an...
by janKipo
Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:28 am
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: toma tawa sin
Replies: 6
Views: 2332

Re: toma tawa sin

Yup! even nimi 'Jipi' li nimi pi tomo tawa.
by janKipo
Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:47 am
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: jan Kikamesi. jan lawa pi ma tomo Uluku
Replies: 71
Views: 16281

Re: jan Kikamesi. jan lawa pi ma tomo Uluku

As Chuang tzu says (after dreaming of being a butterfly)"I no longer know whether I am Chuang Chou dreaming of being a butterfly or a butterfly dreaming of being Chuang Chou" tp philosophy in action. But I think that it is still OK to say 'mi lukin e lukin(sitelen/toki/...) lape' for "...
by janKipo
Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:21 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: jan Kikamesi. jan lawa pi ma tomo Uluku
Replies: 71
Views: 16281

Re: jan Kikamesi. jan lawa pi ma tomo Uluku

jak Ote wrote: a2) jan Kikamesi li lape li lukin -- Gilgamesh was sleeping and looking/seeing. i like this because in this construction the reader would imply the causative relationship between lape and lukin. it is easy to get the meaning because the both are predicates. "lukin lape" is a...

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